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Aliens 'The Tall Whites' are among us

They Are Among Us.

Charles Hall, a nuclear physicist, ex-military American weather specialist and author is touring Australia with his claims that the United States military has been in contact with an alien species for years.

He says the aliens would dress as humans and visit Las Vegas.

''In 1964, when I was a weather observer at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, I witnessed interactions between the military and a group of mysterious tall, white, human-like extra-terrestrials,'' the Vietnam veteran said from his home in Albuquerque.

''Their craft are capable of travelling faster than the speed of light because Einstein was wrong about relativity.''

Mr Hall said no cameras were allowed at the site, which has since been wiped off the map.

When he arrived, a colleague had wanted to lock them in the weather station and not go to the other end of the building ''because that's where he had encountered them. There was a group of five, two men and three women, and they had come to go to the bathroom. ''When you encounter the 'tall whites' it's such a shock, you are not sure if you are looking at a ghost or an angel, or if you are dreaming,'' he said.

Mr Hall said he had contact with three types of aliens - the ''tall whites'' (about 2.5 metres tall), ''greys'' (with yellow/orange skin) and the ''Norwegians with 24 teeth'', who look like humans and speak English.

he claims that the experiences were real and that the US Air Force were indeed hosting extraterrestrials they had reached agreements with during the 1950's if not earlier. They were principally involved in technology transfers with the US military.

He said US officials had kept it all quiet because people weren't ''emotionally ready'' to accept alien life forms.

The tall whites are humanoid in appearance. The first UFO researcher to seriously investigate the Charles Hall story is Paola Harris who interviewed him in July 2003:

Excerpt: Hall:

Charles Hall

"I enlisted in the USAF in July 1964. After completing basic training at Lackland AFB in San Antonio, Texas, I was trained as a USAF weather observer at USAF Weather Training School at Chanute AFB, Illinois. My duties were that of a USAF weather observer during my entire service in the USAF. In late March or early April of 1965, I was assigned to the weather squadron stationed at Nellis AFB at Las Vegas, Nevada. I was stationed at Nellis AFB from the early spring of 1965 until May 1967. While I was permanently stationed at Nellis AFB, Nevada, I was assigned to several temporary tours of duty as the duty weather observer to the Nellis gunnery ranges that are located at Indian Springs, Nevada.

" Airman First Class Charles Hall was Range Weather Observer for several gunnery ranges between 1965 and 1967. These places were located in the hot desert and probably looked very quiet and isolated as well. Hall's duty was simple: to release and track weather balloons, measure the winds, and call in reports to Nellis. His job could have been plain simple if the aliens Hall calls the Tall Whites weren't often around, silently observing him. The Tall White extraterrestrials could freely come and go, even in the barracks and in the weather shacks. Charles Hall believes that these aliens have been on Earth since at least the early 1950's, and possibly as long as a hundred years or more.

Hall: "I believe that the tall whites were associated with the 1954 Eisenhower-ET meetings and that they subsequently established their base in the Indian Springs area of Nevada in that time period."

Following Hall, he was assigned to the ranges with some unusual conditions: no one could order him off the ranges but he was to be alone out there. No one was allowed to ask him questions regarding his job. He was given the surname "Teacher's Pet", a kind of special ID. Hall's first contacts were traumatic to say the least. He simply refused to believe what he saw, even though others before him spotted the Tall Whites. In fact, not being the first Weather Observer to be assigned at the ranges, previous reports mentioned ghosts and a radioactive horse. Many were scared and injured until they simply refused to go back to the Ranges.

With time and much self control, he got used to some Tall Whites known as Range Four Harry, Captain, Tour Guide and a female known as Teacher (a very influential Tall White). Hall was told by the Teacher he was chosen by the Tall Whites as another guinea-pig to try to accustom humans and Tall Whites together. While all other trials failed, Hall somehow passed the test. That's why he was identified as "Teacher's Pet"! Hall, contrary to the other Weather Observers, didn't panic when in front of a Tall White.

The Tall Whites have a base right in the desert, way beyond Range 4. From the Millennial Hospitality books, it is clear there are relationships between them and the US Government. Many times, Hall saw the aliens along with US Generals. The Tall Whites themselves revealed him how they agreed a commercial treaty: the US provided clothes, a base and other resources, in exchange of some advanced scientific knowledge.

Appearance of the Tall Whites 

Charles Hall describes the Tall Whites as pale, with chalk white skin and possessing a thin, frail body. Quoting Hall himself:

"They had the usual thin frail body build, chalk white skin, large blue eyes, and nearly transparent platinum blonde hair. Like all of the tall whites, their eyes were perhaps twice the size of human eyes and they stetched noticeably further around the sides of their heads than human eyes do."

It is curious to notice the eyes change colour, from blue to pink, as they grow older. The Tall Whites are between 1.82 and 2.18 meters tall. Following Hall, the Tall Whites undergo a second stage of growth at 400 years old, until reaching the age of 800. Their language sounds like dog barking, even though they have learned English. Not much is known about their biology, if not that their bones take much much longer to heal. The Teacher once confessed Hall she required 5 years to recover from a bone fracture! A Tall White's brain can process informations twice as fast, outperforming anyone's reflexes. They can run faster than humans as well. Judging from the above description, their home planet (Hall hints at Arcturus) must be a warm, desert-like atmosphere (that's why they chose the Nevada desert).

Interacting with the Tall Whites 

The Tall Whites must be excellent warriors and strategists. Their lives are centered around their children. They heavily protect them; injuring one would be a deadly mistake. Their culture seems almost military like: great importance and respect is given to social positions and hierarchies (them being kind to the Generals but snobby to plain soldiers). Additionally, many Tall Whites appear to be very proud, therefore they don't hesitate to kill:

Hall: "Then the guard said forcefully, “You know that if anything goes wrong with this plan we can kill you any time we want to” Standing my ground still shaking in fear, I replied, “Yes, but I haven’t given you any reason to kill me...”

The guard smiled and replied, “You are quite right. We could have killed you in your shack the other night if we had wanted to.”

All this leads me to think interacting with a Tall White requires an overdose of attention: the wrong words or sudden actions may easily offend a Tall White. It is now very clear why Hall remained calm and maintained distances, when they were around. Hall himself could anytime be subjected to harsh treatment if he inadvertently harmed, scared or disrupted the Tall Whites. Eventually, he was shot by a Tall White female named Pamela. On that occasion, no other Tall White helped Charles Hall (Captain even told him he was going to die!), even though he was the Pet...

"Hall describes the Tall Whites as quite intimidating in terms of behavior and how they regularly stalked military servicemen on duty at the remote desert location where Hall served. The Tall Whites regularly caused powerful emotions of fear and even terror among the military servicemen who didn't understand these Extraterrestrials or weren't ready to interact with them in a friendly way. Yet the Tall Whites were also capable of exhibiting friendship qualities and of being teachers as in the case of Hall."

A dual behaviour for sure: aggressive and friendly... It's quite clear how controlling these Tall White are. Not to forget the condescending attitude they have for those humans who have done them a service. Judging from the above quote, Hall gained the trust of some Tall Whites by showing them he was not interfering with their plans: he let them control him. Yet, they fear our mental ability to multi-task.

If they really exist, it is easy to image the fragile position of the US military, dealing with a race like the Tall Whites. Source:  ,


  1. Again Marshal.
    Bringing stories from the other site is RELEVANT AND PERTINENT. If you feel that you personally have seen it before, then feel free to disregard.
    But these stories are important and should be made available to new viewers.
    End of subject.


    1. Sorry to bother you. I completely agree. I apologize. I never really thought of it that way. Thank you very much for the service you provide. I look forward to continuing to check your site multiple times a day.

    2. Yes, I agree and I appreciate you posting this.

  2. Marshall, there will be many newcomers to the site and personally I like to be reminded to focus on what's going on.

    1. Yeah, you're right. I didn't think of it from that perspective. I apologize for complaining.

    2. i'm new and it was interesting

  3. I like this Charles Hall, he seems like a down to earth decent kind of guy. A bit harsh at the end people just leaving before he could say thanks and goodbye, but a good giggle ;) I'm fascinated by his story, whether fact or fiction still intriguing. The only point I have to make is he's selling these books and thus making money from these stories, which leaves me with a sense of doubt. I'm not knocking the fact that he's trying to earn a little coin, afterall he's a very intelligent guy making his way in the big wide world. I hope it's all true!

    1. Im going to address the selling books thing here.
      -1. You want to tell people, as Many people as you can, a book is honestly the only way to start.
      -2. Here is the problem with books. YOU dont own the book company and thus YOU get very little say as to how much money is to be made, how its to be made, and when you sign a contract you are obligated to perform duties for that company, signings, lectures, interviews, etc etc and tons of promotional things. YOU may never have been interested in making the money, You may only have wanted to get the word out. But once you sign, you are now an author, and you are invested, and some times, part of that signing is forcing you to write more than one book etc.
      Thats how the publishing industry works.
      Now, WHY would you want to sign and do a book?
      Money doesnt hurt. You gotta make a living Some how, and if you had a job before, the requirements of what you signed may not leave you much time or opportunity to continue that line of work any more and every one has bills to pay and mouths to feed.
      Next, If you started talking at all, you become a target of ridicule which can burn bridges to jobs bank loans, business deals and transactions and more, now you NEED that money.
      Next, If you started talking, you may become a target depending on How sensitive the information you are disclosing. People Disappear, or die mysteriously and suspiciously.
      One of the Only defenses you have is to make your self VERY visible.
      So many eyes upon you that should some thing happen to you it might attract the kind of attention your enemies don't Want attracted, and make what you said sound more believable or circulate further almost like martyrdom.

      These are the reasons to get into publishing your story.
      Either that, or shut the hell UP. because people that start talking that Dont get good and visible die. And they have.

      So, lets not be Too hard on those whom whistle blow and end up turning a buck off it. Yes, there are some that sicken me and are unscrupulous, but not all are like that.
      Be well.

      ~ Varakienen.

    2. I was wondering if someone went a little different route, say finding a smaller I have also wondered about people who use "Pen" names... if they provide any legal way to obscure ones identity? I agree with the high visibility angle, seems reasonable to me...

  4. I suppose the visibility factor is a good thing, to get his name out there in many forms of media could shield him further and like I said in the last comment I don't blame him for making any money out of it, whether fact or fiction it's a good read, I might even buy them plus he needs to live off something now he's out of the force. The bit I find interesting is the fact that the aliens don't mind him talking openly about them to the public but the government do. If they do exist I guess the government just wants to keep a leash on them to keep their technology but one day they will want to break free. I'm wanting more people to come forward and let out secrets and I will be researching to see if I can help out in anyway.

  5. Im sceptical. Surely if these "tall whites" have large eyes and chalk white skin. Their planet would be a cold and dark place. The sun changes the pigment of the skin giving us most of our colour. Either like to believe

    1. I used to be a skeptical too, until I had these strange experiences happen in my life, which still remains a mystery till this day. Things I just can't explain, a mysterious woman I saw in a store, which I know in my heart wasn't human, various ufo's I've seen through my lifetime, deja-vus, being surrounded by Greys at my bed, too many coincidences, having a strong intuition of what's going to happen, and seeing rain fall in side my apartment on a hot, bright, sunny day, with not one cloud in the sky, and when I went to touch the rain, it suddenly disappeared. Now I believe.

    2. Reminds me of that paranormal witness documentary I watched 'Rain Man'. The guy in that could make it rain indoors with his own sheer will power.

    3. Skeeters, is there any way you could contact me? I will be constantly checking here. Just add a new comment. I'd like to know more about your story.

    4. They don't live in a system around another star. Super-luminal travel would defy the known laws of physics. They could never reach here before their own expiration, not unless they can fold time-space like a piece of paper.

    5. Dear one, the "laws of physics" are and have been in a state of flux from the beginning...the universe functions according to the seven natural laws, not the laws of man. Further, "time" is not a thing, nor is it liner or incremental but as a matter of perception. As to "super-luminal", consider QM, (modern physics) the work of Paul Dirac..."non-local interaction" ( called "spooky" by dear Albert), both observable and repeatable, has no regard for "speed of light" limitations...for that matter, neither does light. The blackness of a black hole an example of photons accelerated beyond observable limitations of 3-space...a dimensional boundary, not a speed limit for photons...another of your great minds, N. Tesla, demonstrated longitudinal wave forms passing through solid mass (earth) at multiples of the speed of light...this more than 20 years before dear Albert published/plagiarized his general and special theories saying it ain't so...In modern times Nicola's work has been replicated by E. Dollard, again at multiples of light speed.
      Consider this...all manifestation but a creation of mind...what is the speed of thought? This much more than the first law of esoteric knowledge...what the ramifications of the work of Werner Heisenberg? You clutch the words of dear Albert like a hand full of do many these days...Many, even in his time, did not...many great minds...Tesla, Dirac, Bohr, Heisenberg, Feynman but a few...for some, the world is still well...
      waveform 144

  6. im not joking but I think in the mid 80's they used to abduct me and transport e to another place. a place of white rooms with red flooring and red lining around the windows. there many other people my age there. All dress in a paper like dressing gown, the same as myself. but the gowns had no seams or any way to be made like they were. there were no doors but a place on the wall you could touch and get to other rooms. that was something I noticed. since then the tall whites have scared me....

    1. Seriously? Not just a dream then?

    2. Yeah actually not many tall whites abduction stories makes me feel all alone. But I was abducted at 11 and 19 both by TWs, I've never ever seen a grey that I can remember. I still remember both a male and a female TW but at different times, their eyes are blue but not blue like a human's. Worst thing that ever happened to me by FAR!!!!!!!!!

    3. oh yeah, and you are right about the white room thing, like a basketball court or gym, just big, white and open. When you are under hypnosis it takes quite a while to realize they aren't human, but I realized it after a while as I was just staring at her. She had very platinum hair and very white skin, and the male did too but when I was with the male it was just him and I alone, that was when I was eleven. He was extremely manipulative, pushy, forceful, and sexual, even for an adult (I was only 11) and I thought he must be god b/c we communicated in our minds. I was raised religious to believe that only god can talk back and forth with us in our minds, like praying. But then afterwards I remembered how horrible he was and assumed he must be the devil. Funny how kids think. As far as the female in the big gym-like room there was no emotional exchange between us, we were completely indifferent, she was very authoritative and down to business, and that's all she was. In the big room were two big, double chairs way up high and some kind of controls down beneath. Hope that helps!

    4. Dear, Anonymous poster.
      It makes me curious that you are safely returned to tell the tale.
      I am Not going to automatically lump you as a troll, whom may be spinning negative alien propaganda for the eventual Alien false flag event. At least, not yet.
      But that people are returned tells me some thing in and of it self.

      I am just Overly cautious as to whom to believe when it comes to the details of said stories.
      PS: Do get an account, wont you? its always good to be held accountable to ones claims.


    5. Vara- You (and others) walk a tight rope my friend. Its interesting to see you play both sides. I am starting to wonder who the real trolls are. Your creating doubt in peoples mind. Its textbook propaganda and I must counter it. Your insistence that the Negative entities are a tiny minority flys in the face of logic and the truth. The abductions- happen. More than anyone will believe. When they so generously return you to your home, most are unaware that they now possess a implant that neurologically and subtly controls behavior. Imagine how many humans this can add up too in the course of a life time. Then you have the hybrid humans- that are also neurologically linked to a non-terrestrial Quantum computer. Plus they have a host of other genes spliced into their nature. Hundreds of thousands... HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS... of normal looking people, under the control of a dark race. Literally driving them to do their bidding. working for the government, working at hospitals, power companies, etc.. Shaping our world right in front of all of us, yet totally undetectable. It will not be heard from anyones mouth. I wonder if you have any idea of the scale of whats going on here. You begin to see the most subtle army of manipulation imagined. I have heard stories here and seen drawings, that are almost an exact match to the poster you call out. The reach of their control is staggering, and the mis-information effort found where you least expect it.
      Theyre are good beings here, helping, but its a dirty game getting to the truth. I do wonder how much of it is a conscious effort... Its not as simple as you claim, this I am certain.

      -With love for all.

    6. Firstly dear RR. I make No claim that it is simple.
      Secondly, when I suggest that the negative aliens are in a minority, I say that they are a minority compared to the majority of races as a whole. I do NOT what so ever suggest that they are the minority in dealing with earth and man. In fact, the Majority of races do Not contend with man.
      The "Majority" are the ones with some thing akin to a federation which makes the rules of None direct interference, observation of free will, and enforces them. That is Why we do not have them walking the streets openly with us.
      Even that Minority has amassed a great deal of control and manipulation in this world in their non direct manor, by getting/swindling some of Us to do the dirty work for them. When it is we whom are doing the direct actions, then the rule of free will is still tenuously observed.

      Lets address me playing Both sides next.
      In fact, I do not play sides. My facts are based on two things. One of them is current data to date. this means my facts are open to change and I try not to write things in stone. The next, is my wise being deep inside that I can some times access with meditation. The second will seem ridiculous and unconventional to most, and even many of those whom can accept its potential existence believe they can trust their own gut feelings as inner wise man facts, but this is all too often not the case. Why do I get to trust mine, and yet I dont take most others word at thiers? I dunno. I just seem to be more right than most. I will now type El Oh El as in Laugh out loud. LOL
      Now, back to sides.
      I play truth and facts. If some of it happens to be on one side or the other at a given time, so be it.
      I dont see sides the way you do it seems.
      By the way, SEEing Sides is in fact Part of the propaganda that the enemy "Wants" you to perceive in. When people paint it black and white, then certain things can be associated with either color. (yes, I am aware black and white are not colors.) Once a couple misinformation are associated with say, Black, then All things negative can also be associated with it more easily and the common person will this predetermine a notion simply cuz it is black.
      I attempt to avoid this for my self personally.
      I dont take sides or play sides, because to many ways to get caught in that trap.

      Now for a couple details...
      Yes abductions happen. Yes, more than we have discovered and recorded to date.
      We are scheduled for another set of genetic expansions. Our history as a species shows jumps in our advancements that evolutionary theory cannot explain. These were also scheduled genetic expansions.
      I do Not presume to know All the motivations for All abductions.
      I Do presume to know that they have rules. It is extraordinarily rare that an abduction relates to a death, or a person is not returned, but yes, there are evidences to support it can and does happen. But just because such cases do exist does not mean ALL abduction events are nefarious, notorious, evil, negative, blah blah blah. That is the trap of black and white, taking sides thinking.

      too be continued cuz of stupid size restrictions.

    7. Continued, cuz of stupid size restrictions...
      No, the vast majority of abductions contribute to the species upgrade.
      This Does coincide with the hybridization program. I believe it to be hand in hand.
      I have little to No evidence that Hybrids living among us whom commune with their alien counterparts are negative in nature.
      In fact I have overwhelming evidences to suggest that reports of those encountered are for the most part kind, curious, and some times helpful.
      Could they be linked to some neurological quantum computer in some manor? sure, why not?
      How ever, this is the first I am ever hearing of that little tid bit, and I sure wouldn't mind knowing where you your self got that little detail, or Why you would choose to characterize it as Black.
      Lastly, I have very little evidence that implants have been used to manipulate or control people in a negative way as well.
      My evidence has shown that Most people implanted are to an extent protected. Warned some times of impending danger.
      I do not have all the answers where implants are concerned, and neither do you.
      Some make people sick, some make them super healthy, and I do mean Super.
      I can only assume at the given moment/data that implants are as varied and personalized as the people wearing them. And that they may have a mayraid amount of uses based on a specific need of specific individual being monitored or tweaked.
      I have seen little to nothing to suggest that either the hybrid project or the implant situation is under the control of a "Dark Race." My own data suggests that in those two subjects, the opposite is the more prevalent likely hood.

      I'm sorry RR.
      I believe it possible you are still too caught up in the misinformation and propaganda, even paranoia, that they Want you to be caught in for the coming False flag.
      (I dont expect you to Like hearing that statement. Its a slap in the face.
      But I do expect you to be smart and open enough to think on these words.
      It is easier to fool some one, than it Is to convince them they have Been Fooled. ~ Samuel Clemens. aka Mark Twain.

      The Only way You will see a bigger picture is to see it from ALL sides, and not as black and white.
      And to keep your mind open to changing data.

      Be well RR.

      ( Besides, what the hell do I know any way. Im just a Muggle, right?) ;)

    8. ...muggle this...the farmer who cleans the seed and pulls the he not considered "good" by the wheat and "evil" by the tares? The nature of good and evil a difficult argument to reconcile when one at the table be a stalk of wheat and the next a tare...
      ...then there is this...debate among humans regards this issue only possible as result of ancient and ongoing manipulations of the race, without which the debate would resolve around bananas and the female in heat...I prefer a perspective acknowledging both +/- as required for balance and ask the question "does it bring one closer to source or further from it"...that that promotes life's return to source...higher consciousness, I choose to call good...for lack of a better term...I suppose at the end of the day, each conscious entity faced with the I tare or of the select this, not a question of heredity but rather free will...
      Some while ago I reminded RR of this...the sharper the focus, the more limited the perspective...great truth hides in this who grasps this sees the big picture...

    9. Paranoid? False Flag? I was willing to have the debate until you act like a child and begin the dismissive catch words- intended to create doubt in the minds of others. This is a silly game, and I understand why it must be played. I do benefit from it as I must really be sharp to overcome the perfected smokescreen you generate.
      I certainly have been varied in my ideas about what is going on, and why, but certain things that were made known to me early on have only become clearer. I have overcome so many tricks and tactics that could only serve to confuse, obscure, plant doubt in the mind, and imply psychosis. The things I have seen here, the isolation and unhappiness in so many, the tricks, and manipulation, and the desires of so many to be free of limitations imposed on them from something/someone else, and their inability to express whats inside, has served as my gauge/guide and inspiration. The insight I have has come from inside, and also from others that choose to remain unknown. I am so far past the paranoia stage. I find it absurd that you are reducing things to that. I certainly do not have a complete understanding, but I know what I know. Take a vacation and come visit. You might learn something new... I have more to add later. Till then, keep up the good work.
      Your friend, RR

    10. I like thick comforters, and two pillows, one soft one firm.
      Do I get my own room for my visit?
      I really could use a vacation from all my stress.

      I didnt expect you to take my last post well.
      But I Can see that I read you right.
      Its OK.
      We got you squared and on the road once, time is nothing but,... well, actually, time is nothing at all.
      Read waves note above you here, that will help.
      Be well RR.

    11. I have seen the banana over-ride a persons freewill... lol. You got me on that one.

    12. By the way. RR.
      I owe you an apology.
      With out intending to I have once again managed to come of as arrogant and condescending.
      Been having a Very bad few months now, and its not likely to get better till after new years.
      Its why I have been posting less. Be well.
      ~ V.

    13. Me again, was wondering if the place you were brought to, the white room, was Area 51.. because I was brought there by the Tall Whites at least once, the time when I was 11. Of course I didn't know it was Area 51 until after I read Charles Hall's book 2 and othe accounts where he explained the Nellis Airforce Base enough for me to recognize it. It really bothered me as an 11 year old to see people have to lay down with bags over their heads as machine guns were pointed at them, scared me so much!!! Even from the safety of the spaceship I was scared to death. But I won't say too much more b/c I don't want to like start a war or something

    14. Me again, again.. I am finding time to read through some of the comments and I notice that people don't know half as much as they would like to think they know, or come across as if they know. Good they are searching or whatever but keep in mind Charles Hall himself lived through all of this for 2 years and he isn't even aware that the TWs abduct. No one knows the whole story and internet/conspiracy research is never going to tell you very much at ALL. But I can't think of a solution to the problem I just presented (oops) and also I cannot share any more of my own experience without major horrible consequences that I had to go through the first time I tried to share it.. but I guess everything is going in the right direction with people around the world becoming aware of the whole abduction thing. BTW I would love to know more about implants if anyone can tell me- I am clueless about that kind of stuff

    15. I am clueless as well. At times I believed I knew what was happening... Its clear I don't.
      For every action, the is an equal and opposite reaction. Also- that the destination is truth, justice, and transparency, leading to true freedom for all living beings. (ok, that part is more like a Invocation)
      That is the most current information I have at this time. I will file my report when all things have played out. Till then.

    16. I need to know if iam the only one that the big blue eyed blond boy and girl aliens came and seen I was sleep that where talking I understood that fleeced me over did something to my ear but that where child like citing up I open my eyes he dropped my head I couldn't move I always have something going on with my ears now I've never told no one thay would think I was nuts what do I do and last night n bed I heard weird sound my boy friend didn't n I felt something touching my body couldn't move its been yr since or lil longer since I seen them what's wrong with me

  7. i've also seen the TW's . Am always trying to keep informed on any new encounters . Seems that they have been more private since his books came out , yet fits with their profile.

    1. I don't know if that's who that where that did something to my ears it was boy and girl blond hair big blue eyes I awoke he dropped my head then I already couldn't move that sleep me over stuck something n my ears that had long fingers I heard them talking that where like children pre teens I feel crazy saying this but that looked almost human

  8. I've recounted an incident many times to family, friends and spouses in which I was at a group sleepover in my small hometown in Northern California in the early 1980's. It was a cold windy night and I woke after everyone had fallen asleep and stepped out of the game room that we were all crashed out in. As I unzipped to pee I looked left to the wood pile and saw a skinny pale person standing in clear site with an outstretched hand summoning me. As I backed up and hit the sliding glass door, the figure lowered its arm and hand and shook it's head slowly in a side to side "no" motion. I slid the door open and fell inside pushing it closed behind me. I slowly peered back out the glass door and saw nothing but trees blowing in the wind. I always thought ghost, but now I'm torn, Ghost or T.W. I wish I has gone to the figure. I recently retired after 22 years in the Air Force. Many things I experienced and many people I spoke to over those years have had similar experiences.

  9. From what Mr Hall says, the Tall Whites run the show at Nellis AFB, so I'm just wondering, why are they not making themselves known to the general public. I mean they know they are technologically advanced than us, why should they remain secret and put on disguises whenever they go "out" to have fun? Doesn't make any sense. "I want to believe" if "The truth is out there".

    1. Prime directive.
      Do not directly interfere.

    2. If the Negative entities are so all-up-in this worlds natural resources, politics, behavior, and even our minds... I would hope for a little bit more "interference" (guidance is a better word). From the Positive, non manipulation teams of course... that's just me though.

    3. I hear the T-White's are total party animals... getting thrown out of bars and all that.

    4. Nah man the Grey's are the party animals they get drunk as fuck and they never fail to go to jail for murder, assualt vandalism etc.

  10. Restless.
    Hope is good. Intention and desire for an out come is good. that is free will.
    The good guys will not interfere with Out us expressing it more on Mass, lest they interfere with the current climate of free will which is Us, allowing it to go on, despite the evidences with out even speaking out about it. That too is free will, and it is already currently being observed.
    Thus there has been a Long term campaign of secrecy and skepticism concerning conspiracies. To dissuade the mass's from taking notice or from even believing that the wool has long been pulled over their eyes.

  11. I'm a believer. . Have been my whole life. From stories my grandfather told me in his days in the military. I just wish to see something for myself

  12. I'm a believer myself, my grandmother seen them an she said they didn look human, that has stuck in my mine for years. I no they are out there no dout about that.

    1. Hi, curious how your mother saw them.. I totally believe you because those were my exact words when I saw them (abduction at 11 and 19). And it's not just that they don't look human, although that's how we explain it, but it is that they don't "feel" human either if that makes sense. You know how when you see someone you know well in the corner of your eye and you just 'know' it's them? It's because you can feel them but the TWs are so alien because they feel "out of this world". I'm so busy but when I get more time I am going to document my 2 abductions for everyone on this website and try to explain a lot more about them kind of how what Charles did in his books for anyone interested

  13. as a child i always looked in the Skies and wonder whats beyond the clouds until i realize there is no other worlds out there and that is why they live among us all new technology's are given to us by them in our brains while we sleep they come to us and make us do things,

  14. Fellow Earthlings. Today I had a two and a half hour conversation with the Professor who wrote the book 'UFOS in Voronezh' (he teaches at the same university as me)and I am completely convinced that beings did land there over a two week period in 1989. I am writing down what he told me as I speak, and I will post it here when I 'm finished. Suffice it to say, we are not alone, and inter-dimensional beings do visit us.

  15. Part I:

    I was getting my laptop fixed at school today, the IT guy is Russian and his father is a Professor at the university (material science). I had heard from another Professor that I have lunch with - who is also in material science - that Prof. Losotzev had seen something in Russia that was not made by humans, a material that was unknown to us - a very thin, very hard piece of metal that was impervious to any force applied. I had been keen to speak with Yuri (Losotzev) but he never leaves his office and I put it on the long finger. Anyway, when I was dropping my laptop into Mikhail, his father was there and so I asked him about this strange material. It turns out he had written a book on UFOs based on his investigations on behalf of the military/KGB etc. It was never translated into English, but is called 'UFOs in Voronezh' - you can youtube 'ufo voronezh', the videos are short and mention nothing of some of the stuff he told me, like the robot. He published only the accounts which he believed to be real and left out even the stories which were interesting and he 50% believed but had not got enough support for. He hates disinformation and did not want to be discredited as he had a career to worry about. The French government bought the rights to the book and never translated it.

    I followed him to his office and he talked for two and a half hours - it just flowed out of him, he doesn't have many people to talk to clearly - but the hairs were standing up on the back of my neck the whole way through his telling me about these human-like aliens that were about
    3M tall with blond hair.

    There was a spate of sightings/manifestations/landings in Voronezh, in 1989, and he was on the team asked to investigate it. Things had changed in Russia post-Gorbachev, and the KGB were ordered to open up and share information with other countries on these matters - so he was surprised when a KGB Major came to his office one day to ask him to help with the investigation into what happened in Voronezh, and gave him the resources necessary to completely investigate the situation : Video camera to record the interviews etc.

    Previously, any academic would have been ostracized if they even mentioned aliens - and you would be visited by the KGB all right, but for a very different reason -escort to a gulag - but the tide had turned in Russia and he was invited along for the ride. He was invited to a military base to investigate a strange material they had found after a visitation there. He spoke to the two soldiers who had the encounter -I'll post the story later.

    Do you remember the French scientist in Close Encounters of the Third Kind? His real name is Jacques Vallée, and he went to Russia to interview Yuri (as did media from all over the planet for about two years, he and his colleagues were quite the celebrities) and swap notes. He said the French have been recording all of these visitations for a few hundred years. In the 18th and 19th centuries, they would arrive in hot-air balloons, things recognisable to the people of the time.

    I was skeptical about human accounts of UFOs, but not anymore. I believe they exist now, and it's comforting in a way to feel that we are not alone. They visit us just to watch and observe. They are not malevolent but loving. I'm going to write down the things he told me and then I'll post them on. He and his son are good people and I feel he was telling me exactly what happened, me writing this here is just hearsay, but I had to share it, I was shaking for about an hour afterwards. These are NOT Extra Terrestrials. They share the same space perhaps.

    We are not alone. And that feels good. We are not alone.

  16. If true, if these guys constitute the "benevolent" ETs that are here to help us, then I'm seriously apprehensive about their intentions on our planet.

    They shot him? Even after he had been around them for so long and built up their trust and confidence? They sound condescending, sadistic, and malevolent.

    1. There are people of Your own race living near you whom would take you in and help you if you were hurt.
      Still, you would Not willingly let your 5 year old child wander from yard to yard freely, trusting all your neighbors despite that they are the same race, as you know full well that different people with different life experiences are capable of different acts.
      There is NO reason to conclude that alien races are not the same. Each having individual personality and character. That each race can have internal orders or factions which believe in different things, just as we have Catholics and Protestants and atheists whom can all be the same race.

      Soldiers are trained to act / react differently than civilians. Even Conditioned to do so.
      Soldier, civilian, same race. Different actions.

      What is needed is to NOT judge an entire species for individual actions. Or actions of sects within said race or species etc.
      Get out of the box with your thinking and broaden your perspectives horizons.

      I am Not saying these aliens were not violent. I am saying we do Not know enough to make a proper assessment, and that it IS in the interest of the elites that we come to fear and spread fear about aliens as a whole regardless of species or faction.


  17. after contacting the Gaia Earth telepathically at midday, the Gaia Earth here and now rejects all human beings aliens away from the solar system where it is located. The group of aliens present in support which is opposed to the clique led by Jesus Omega, whose soul was that of Jesus, is now persona non grata for Gaia Earth for serious misconduct, in particular for non-compliance of me on fundamental points. There are therefore no longer here and now, people aliens welcome or tolerated by the Gaia Earth in the solar system where it is all of these people must leave now and stop any activity here, even remotely controlled from the system Solar. They should stop any activity and any form of influence in the Astral about what is happening in the solar system where the Earth is Gaia. They must respect the fundamentals of life at any point in the solar system where the Earth Gaia, and in particular not to do anything that might interfere with or alter the perception of the source of life, God, for the Earth humans Gaia and their relationship with her. Those who refuse to obey me will continue to meet as opposing them here, then meet them here as opposed to future beings become Buddhas, that my soul will be the incarnation, if such is their choice freely made. The Universe is also working on solutions. All human beings of Earth Gaia involved in extraterrestrial presence will be publicly challenged and legally opposed by me and by other human beings of Earth Gaia I think and hope. Nature here requires respect for the law as the foundations of life! Even the source of life, God, who has long been excessively tolerant, I think, with the extraterrestrial group that supported us feels responsible for several years to hear her cry and take it into account! I would add that the Mother Universe is outraged by all these aliens people who steal her knowledge for thousands of years and more or less seriously infringe the Basis of life not only at home, but this is extremely serious, excluding their Mother Earth! It is also a warning for Humanity Gaia the Earth! Do not train children in a future collective disaster! Do not involve billions of innocent human beings not in a tragedy which only a majority of you are responsible! Stop being evil with life: become aware that many species and not innocent human beings, humanity has already caused irreparable damage! Basically, life does not want any harm to humanity. However, life has the right to reduce or destroy humanity to protect and it has some defenses for it. I note that many primates are threatened by humanity or poorly protected and disturbed in their development: this very important line has been crossed by the Humanity! Leave them alone! Respect their territories and eventually replant trees if the forests where they live have been reduced by humans. Do not interfere with the life and evolution of their species by approaching closely to observe or seeking to become a member of their group. The latter case is exceptional and because of their extraordinary kindness to help a human in distress! I condemn all human beings who use animals and generally cause unfair harm to living beings in a laboratory on Earth and in space, whether in monkeys, rats, corn, yeast or virus for example!

  18. The forces and groups who are here today represent several different alliances. These different alliances are not united with each other in their efforts. Each alliance represents several different racial groups who are collaborating for the purpose of gaining access to your world’s resources and maintaining this access. These different alliances are, in essence, competing with each other though they are not at war with one another. They see your world as a great prize, something they want to have for themselves.

    This creates a very great challenge for your people, for the forces who are visiting you not only have advanced technology, but also strong social cohesion and are able to influence thought in the Mental Environment. You see, in the Greater Community, technology is easily acquired, and so the great advantage between competing societies is the ability to influence thought. This has taken on very sophisticated demonstrations. It represents a set of skills that humanity is only beginning to discover.

    As a result, your visitors do not come armed with great weapons or with armies or with armadas of vessels. They come in relatively small groups, but they possess considerable skill in influencing people. This represents a more sophisticated and mature use of power in the Greater Community. It is this ability that humanity will have to cultivate in the future if it is to contend with other races successfully.

    The visitors are here to gain humanity’s allegiance. They do not want to destroy human establishments or the human presence. Instead, they wish to use these for their own benefit. Their intention is employment, not destruction. They feel that they are in the right because they believe that they are saving the world. Some even believe that they are saving humanity from itself. But this perspective does not serve your greater interests, nor does it foster wisdom or self-determination within the human family.

    1. I am Forced to concur with the majority of this statement and its assessment.


  19. Now let us address the last of the four areas that we spoke of in our first discourse. This has to do with the visitors interbreeding with the human species. Let us give you a bit of history first. Many thousands of years ago, in your time, several races came to interbreed with humanity to give humanity a greater intelligence and adaptability. This led to the rather sudden emergence of what we understand is called “Modern Man.” This has given you dominance and power in your world. This occurred long ago.

    However, the interbreeding program that is occurring now is not the same at all. It is being undertaken by a different set of beings and by different alliances. Through interbreeding, they are seeking to establish a human being who will be part of their association yet who can survive within your world and who can have a natural affinity with the world. Your visitors cannot live on the surface of your world. They must either seek shelter underground, which they are doing, or they must live aboard their own craft, which they often keep hidden in large bodies of water. They want to interbreed with humanity to protect their interests here, which are primarily the resources of your world. They want to have human allegiance assured, and so for several generations they have been involved in an interbreeding program, which within the last twenty years has become quite extensive.

    Their purpose is twofold. First, as we have mentioned, the visitors want to create a human-like being who can live within your world but who will be bonded to them and who will have a greater set of sensitivities and abilities. The second purpose of this program is to influence all those that they encounter and to encourage people to assist them in their undertaking. The visitors want and need human assistance. This furthers their program in all respects. They consider you valuable. However, they do not consider you to be their peers or their equals. Useful, that is how you are perceived. So, in all whom they will encounter, in all whom they will take, the visitors will seek to engender this sense of their superiority, their value and the worth and the significance of their endeavors in the world. The visitors will tell all whom they contact that they are here for the good, and they will assure those that they have captured that they need not fear. And with those who seem particularly receptive, they will attempt to establish alliances—a shared sense of purpose, even a shared sense of identity and family, of heritage and destiny.

    In their program, the visitors have studied human physiology and psychology very extensively, and they will take advantage of what people want, particularly those things that people want but have not been able to gain for themselves, such as peace and order, beauty and tranquility. These will be offered and some people will believe. Others will simply be used as is needed.

    1. I sense truths, mixed with distorted truths, and some non truths in this.

  20. You are hilarious. Maybe things are going on that you are not aware of V. You are unable admit certain things to yourself.. like what you have believed for some time now... is in fact, truth, half-truths mixed with--- WAKE UP my friend.

    1. you are very odd RR.
      I am reasonably sure I just did exactly That in recent posts.
      Unusually hostile and petty of you.
      I am currently restructuring my working theories.
      Because Unlike some, I do Not write them in stone. I stay open to new data.
      Be well.

    2. From a few days ago my friend. ...and yes, when you have been through what I have, it makes you a bit odd. Thats putting it mildly. I'm proud of you Vara. Thank you for caring.

  21. Can you please explain why your physical description of tall whites & grey aliens matches the physical description given to aliens in H. G. Wells 1930's radio broadcast?

  22. Forget this clown and his boring, last century, War of the Worlds radio broadcast rehash aliens. Get your alien fix by watching some current Sci-Fi shows & movies. Go and buy this trying to sell his version of expanding on a radio show he heard as kid elaborate story books & speaking engagements when you're the mood to waste money & need to take a nap.

    1. Who is the clown? Somebody seems very upset.

    2. Is the clown Charles Hall? Or is the clown you for buying Charles Hall?

    3. Or is it you for completely missing whats being said here? I have am not buying anything, especially whatever your selling. I am just calling it like I see it. If you want to keep thinking you know anything about what people should do to "get their alien fix" then you go right ahead. I'm glad your s concerned. Enjoy your tiny little bubble of a world... really, enjoy it.

    4. And I'm calling you the clown that buys anything Charles Hall rehashes from a 1930's H. G. Wells radio broadcast. Calls it like I sees it.

    5. I've been reading over your posts and have to agree with you. Also, I see some who identify themselves with ascended master types, putting on the robe of omniscience without furnishing real facts.

  23. Here is a summery of my new conclusions based on new data.
    As always it is subject to change and Not written in stone.
    Copied from my post on another thread.


    Their agenda's is not ours.
    Their notions of morality, Not ours.
    Their laws and rules of interference... Not ours.
    What is happening here, IS by design.
    This design will lead to them controlling the fate of our world and our species.
    It has happened before. It will happen again.
    We will practically beg for them to help. And they Will.
    But it will not likely be help as you conceive of it now.
    As You would desire it.
    We will be absorbed into their community, this world becoming theirs.
    There will be changes to our genetics over time and breeding.
    Not quite as Bad as being assimilated by the Borg. But not entirely dissimilar either.
    Individuality and individual freedom is Not a desirable or convenient trait to the ones whom are taking a interest here. Long term it will be conditioned and bred out.
    They do not take worlds by violent force. They do not need to. Merely, manipulate unsuspecting species as is being done with us, so that the conditioning and take over is gradual. Acclimatised.
    Through the elites, they Already have control of the majority of the world.
    The world will know catastrophe after economic collapse. The survivors will come together in a new world order. This core of this order has already been formed.
    It already serves them.
    We are useful.

    Many species out there do not have our emotional range, our short lives, our penchant for morality or spirituality.
    Like a cold corporation, they deal in numbers. Facts. Logic.
    What we value about our selves is irrelevant to them.
    There Are races and factions out there which are similar to us. And they are watching.
    But the ones that are already here and interfering and manipulating.... these are Not those.

    We are for the most part, on our Own.
    We combat this Only by spreading awareness. Putting a stop to the Machinations of our own Elites and rulers whom have been allowed to run amuck.
    This IS our world, and there are rules in the game of taking it.
    So far, they are a great many steps ahead of us.


    1. You don't have it right, and use your given name.

    2. Do please tell us the truth of the matter then F Stover.
      VARAKIENEN awaits eagerly for new data.

  24. I want to share a bit more from "Behold a Pale Horse"

    Energy is recognized as the key to all activity on earth. Natural
    science is the study of the sources and control of natural energy, and social
    science, theoretically expressed as economics, is the study of the sources
    and control of social energy. Both are bookkeeping systems: mathematics.
    Therefore, mathematics is the primary energy science. And the bookkeeper
    can be king if the public can be kept ignorant of the methodology of
    the bookkeeping.
    All science is merely a means to an end. The means is knowledge. The
    end is control. [THE END ALWAYS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS.] Beyond
    this remains only one issue: Who will be the beneficiary?
    In 1954 this was the issue of primary concern. Although the socalled
    "moral issues" were raised, in view of the law of natural selection it
    was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence
    are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such
    people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent.
    CONSEQUENTLY, in the interest of future world order, peace, and
    tranquility, it was decided to privately wage a quiet war against the American
    public with an ultimate objective of permanently shifting the natural
    and social energy (wealth) of the undisciplined and irresponsible many
    into the hands of the self-disciplined, responsible, and worthy few.
    In order to implement this objective, it was necessary to create, secure,
    and apply new weapons which, as it turned out, were a class of weapons so
    subtle and sophisticated in their principle of operation and public appearance
    as to earn for themselves the name "silent weapons."
    In conclusion, the objective of economic research, as conducted by the
    magnates capital (banking) and the industries of commodities (goods)
    and vices, is the establishment of an economy which is totally predictable
    and manipulative. The quality of education given to the lower class must be of the
    poorest sort, so that the moat of ignorance isolating the inferior class from
    the superior class is and remains incomprehensible to the inferior class.
    With such an initial handicap, even bright lower class individuals have
    little if any hope of extricating themselves from their assigned lot in life.
    This form of slavery is essential to maintaining some measure of social
    order, peace, and tranquility for the ruling upper class.
    Everything that is expected from an ordinary weapon is expected from
    a silent weapon by its creators, but only in its own manner of junctioning.
    It shoots situations, instead of bullets; propelled by data processing,
    instead of a chemical reaction (explosion); originating from bits of data,
    instead of grains of gunpowder; from a computer, instead of a gun; operated
    by a computer programmer, instead of a marksman; under the orders
    of a banking magnate, instead of a military general.
    It makes no obvious explosive noises, causes no obvious physical or
    mental injuries, and does not obviously interfere with anyone's daily social
    Yet it makes an unmistakable "noise," causes unmistakable physical
    and mental damage, and unmistakably interferes with daily social life, i.e.,
    unmistakable to a trained observer, one who knows what to look for.
    The public cannot comprehend this weapon, and therefore cannot
    believe that they are being attacked and subdued by a weapon.
    The public might instinctively feel that something is wrong [ISN'T
    THAT THE TRUTH?], but because of the technical nature of the silent
    weapon, they cannot express their feeling in a rational way, or handle the
    problem with intelligence. Therefore, they do not know how to cry for
    help, and do not know how to associate with others to defend themselves
    against it.
    When a silent weapon is applied gradually, the public adjusts/adapts
    to its presence and learns to tolerate its encroachment on their lives until
    the pressure (psychological via economic) becomes too great and they crack.

  25. Stop listening to these snake oil salesmen trying to peddle their miracle in a bottle shenanigans. Stop listening to these false prophets trying to peddle their take on a false religion, they know less about what's really going on than you. TRUTH is no one KNOWS what is going on with UFO's, that's why they're called UFO's. If we knew what they were then they would be known as IFO's and fake clowns like Charles Hall who benefit from lack of information hysteria would be out of a job. Do you think we would care what Charles Hall had to say if aliens landed tomorrow and made themselves known to the world over and we got to see them for ourselves? Do you think anyone is going to remember that Charles Hall claimed that the aliens were grey or white just like when he listened to the H. G. Wells on the radio but the aliens actually turned out be purple? Of course not which is why Charles Hall has no conscience about being a liar because what would be the repercussions for accepting your money by giving you hope to buy wrapped in a nice little story? As of right now UFO's appear to be harmless, that is why the US government no longer wants to hear official reports about them. There's nothing they can do about UFO's. The US government and each state government's main job is to protect the citizens and so far UFO's have done nothing. Public hysteria of the unknown causes people to claim they were abducted, make up stories of alien encounters and cause disinformation to spread which has taken on a life of its own to create an entire pop culture in which people like Charles Hall can make a decent living on if not a rich one. One can only imagine the results of any level of government admitting that they are aware of UFO's and are powerless to do anything about them. We would see mass suicides, riots and chaos. Better that governments admit nothing so that clowns like Charles Hall be allowed to perpetuate and clowns like you continue to buy Charles Hall.

  26. Your agenda is so incredibly obvious, and your game is almost over. Your argument in regards to the idea that we should be kept ignorant and brainwashed by the ruling class is ironic. You say UFOs have "done nothing"... What are you even talking about? I want to quote my favorite line from your bullshit, fraudulent opinion.....

    "Better that governments admit nothing so that clowns like Charles Hall be allowed to perpetuate and clowns like you continue to buy Charles Hall."
    This is the most ridiculous thing I think I have ever heard. What a bunch of bullshit. Someone should slap you. You have decided to sell out your fellow humans for a paycheck. You have a small little brain, and you choose to keep lying to yourself while the world around you is a complete disaster. You can play your little games of creating doubt by mocking and trivializing, but your boat is sinking. Hope you can swim.

    1. So you're saying the world needs more clowns to rehash H. G. Wells 1930's radio broadcasts? The world needs more clowns to buy said clown's books and speaking engagements? When someone offers their own opinion on the alien pop culture in a public forum that differs from original clown's rehashed books another clown blows a gasket and creating whimsical one liners to prove their case? Nah, I'm good. One clown too many.

  27. Charles Hall doesn't care about you, which is why he's more than happy to take you're money selling you hope about aliens wrapped in a nice little story. Charles Hall doesn't care about the TRUTH. When was the last time you heard any one of these charlatans say they would use all the proceeds to fund a fact finding alien agency? Judging from the picture about the only thing Charles Hall is funding is his spot in line to the all you can eat buffet.

  28. Bertrand Russell on Education

    Education in a scientific society may, I think, be best conceived after the analogy of the education provided by the Jesuits. The Jesuits provided one sort of education for the boys who were to become ordinary men of the world, and another for those who were to become members of the Society of Jesus. In like manner, the scientific rulers will provide one kind of education for ordinary men and women, and another for those who are to become holders of scientific power. Ordinary men and women will be expected to be docile, industrious, punctual, thoughtless, and contented. Of these qualities probably contentment will be considered the most important. In order to produce it, all the researches of psycho-analysis, behaviourism, and biochemistry will be brought into play. - Bertrand Russell, 1931

    I think this quote is a great example of the mentality of the elites. Keep the masses content so they will be docile, industrious, punctual and thoughtless. Meanwhile, reserve hidden knowledge for the chosen few.

    In another Russell writing he discusses what should happen if one from the lower ranks were to be of high intelligence. He concludes that should this situation occur, that person should be invited into the elite circles. If they refuse, they should be killed, for if they continue to live in the lower ranks they will inspire others and cause civil unrest (presumably through revolution or uprising).

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  30. I'm sure people have noticed that almost everyone- young and old is walking around with a "musical" device with head phones in their ears? Its a dirty game. They talk around what they are really designing with "music". Research SONIC ARTIST and you will get an idea of how dark they really are.

    'I've always had this theory that recorded sound is dead sound, in the sense that it's not "live"
    anymore. […] The music is embalmed. I'm trying to bring it back to life through my art.' [1]
    The fixity of the music record, whether existing as a physical token or virtual entity, continues to be
    a topic of interest in sonic endeavours spanning intellectual to popular thought. One specific aspect
    concerning this fixity is 'reanimation', where, through processes of appropriation and
    recontextualisation, the record is brought back to life with a new identity. Reanimation occurs
    through such practices as sampling, turntablism and remixing, whilst being approached more
    directly by artists including Yasanao Tone, John Oswald and Christian Marclay.
    Coming from my ongoing sonic arts practice – the exploration of strategies for freeing the record
    from fixity – this paper will detail the conceptual backgrounds of three works developed through
    two distinct approaches to record reanimation. One man band x n and Human jukebox x n place
    the record back into the heart of pop music performance, wiring headphone-toting performers to
    MP3 player and jukebox media respectively, allowing them to publicly run riot in private auditory
    worlds. The second approach seeks to bring a life to the mass-cloned formats of digital audio
    through the music player dieTunes, which destructively alters the bits of any audio file it plays.
    These approaches will be discussed from in relation to the social use of the related media, with
    links to the specific technical implementations of the works.

    Alongside his research activities he is a member of HELOpg, the postgraduate laptop ensemble
    based in Huddersfield, and he has spent many years creating electronic pop music and playing
    bass guitar. More information can be found at, with details on his
    research at

  31. I think what we all need to do is kind of try to turn off the part of our brain that is somewhat overly dominated with conspiracy, religion, and the more abstract things that aren't reality (or are at least opinionated), and turn on the part of our brain that is more structured, factual, scientific. I think Charles Hall is very down-to-Earth, concerned with only the facts that he remembers. I believe him because I was abducted by TWs at 11 and taken to Area 51 (and then abducted again at 19) and I think it is important to follow his example, to not pretend to know more than I do know, and when trying to deal with what happened to me, I try not to read into things too much. Which is hard because you have to make some connections between events or you will never figure anything out. But if we try to make too many connections and become conspirators or overly religious that defeats the purpose of trying to find the truth.

    Also, I am thinking about how to share my own abduction and experience with the TWs because I think the more we all share our real, true experiences (what we DO know, reality) that we will hopefully get to the bottom of the whole situation of what is going on here with the aliens???? And that will somewhat empower us, at least we can get them to respect our boundaries if we flash our teeth a bit

    One last thing, I see similarities between the way we treat domesticated animals and the way they treat us. Working with animals and also being an abductee I see some connections there that perhaps others don't.. but they seem to be 'domesticating' us in some ways I guess but that can be expected since the gap between their and our intelligence is probably not so much less than the gap between our and animal intelligence

    1. I have pondered on the similarities, in some cases, between their treatment and handling of us, and our treatment of live stock as well.
      It concerns me on Both sides.

  32. Abstract
    Human-centred systems has a long theoretical tradition within the automation and control community stretching back at least into the 1970s and particularly in manufacturing systems. As automation and control systems are increasingly important outside the factory many researchers are revisiting core concepts within this tradition in order to address concerns in these other contexts. One particularly important sector is health care which, in recent years, has implemented a range of AMAT-type solutions not least of which are enterprise systems. This paper reviews the application of enterprise integration systems to health-care and, in doing so, unpacks several theoretical tensions. The paper proposes a re-assessment of human-centred systems (HCS) thinking as a way to address these tensions in automatic healthcare systems.

    Human-centred systems; Health informatics; ERP

    1. Context
    1.1. Historical development of human-centred systems thinking
    1.2. Automation based upon human skill and healthcare provision
    2. The technical–social debate in healthcare systems
    3. Levels of social impact of ERP systems in health-care
    3.1. Motivation
    4. Assumptions underlying manufacturing management information technologies
    4.1. Functional rationalism and instrumental realism: organisation as machine, humans as data
    4.2. Integration rationalism: technological integration as progress
    4.2.1. Integrated quality systems perspective of health care provision

    4.3. Reductionism, units and cells: humans as assemblies and disassemblies
    5. Synthesis

    6. Conclusion

  33. Its interesting to think about yourself being "domesticated". I can see how this is necessary on many levels. When one becomes accountable to the whole, the choices one makes become much more deliberate. There is great purpose and meaning found within a collective experience. The notion of an individual only accountable to the random thoughts of his/her own mind seems childish. The thing I have noticed is that within either path is found the same tendency to justify things that do not match our principles or altruistic selves. The ability to overlook certain things, while justifying others seems a universal trait. On one level this game seems a lot like what the white settlers of the west called "civilizing the savages"- Trying to break the raw heart and spirit of a person or people. I have felt like a bit of a savage lately. Yet when I think about the intangible things that makes humans human, this is one of them. From what I hear, its what the ones abducting and tinkering with genetics are finding so difficult to create. It seems like there is a dislike for passion, heart, and emotion.. so much so that it is being eliminated from our nature slowly but surely. Yet it is the "thing" they are after, and are unable to figure out, or truly appreciate or understand. Its loved, and despised at the same time. I look around and see that it is almost completely absent from this world. I think a lot about the great native american warriors and chiefs and medicine men. They exemplify the best qualities of both paths- the individual, and the collective. Men and women of honor, principle, and integrity, and a relationship with the earth and the spirit- qualities almost extinct on this planet. The middle pillar.

  34. curious where all of this information about the "takeover plan" and "hybrid program" and "implants" is coming from? From the perspective of Charles Hall's experience and my own experience neither of us are in "the know" about this and I wonder if the sources for most all of this are even credible? No doubt these things are going on but no one seems to really agree or even know what they are talking about when on the subject of WHY, what is their plan, program...??? Yet everyone pretends they are the expert. Can anyone give me an *accurate source for any of this? Clueless here, and no disinfo like Reptilians or Annunaki or religous/spiritual stuff please, just REAL facts, REAL experiences.. for instance, someone who used to actually work at Area 51 or Bud Hopkins or something. What are these people saying????

    1. The disinformation machine paid for by the elites, hires scads of compu desk jockeys to scout a multitude of sites daily and write within the parameters of the desired dissinfo.
      Brand new sites which Look legit pop up which are run by the same for the sole purpose of misdirection, distraction, and disinfo, while Also putting out real info as well to keep the appearance of legitimacy.
      It takes a LOT of time, and research, and insight to begin to get a feel for what the real material is versus the disinfo.
      But there are patterns.
      One such pattern to look for is Visibility.
      Ison for instance is Very popular right now and Very visible.
      IF it were a threat for real, or IF it were an thing of importance it would not likely be so.
      This leads me to suspect that it is a planted story. Oh sure, its a real comet. Its just not likely AS special as some want you to think, or to concentrate upon.
      While you are concentrating on Ison, you will be distracted from what ever it is that they Really dont want you concentrating on.
      More, the more certain stories build up, get massive visibility then turn out to be a let down, the more the "Boy who cried wolf" syndrome / factor sets into the public and general mind set.
      This leaves a bad taste in peoples mouth and makes the truth should it rear its head later become less believable.
      There may or may Not be some thing special about ISON.
      But I can almost guarantee you that it Wont be any thing that you think.
      JUST because it is so visible, and there is So much concentration on it.
      This is what they WANT. What they direct your attention too, what they allow you to see. Smoke and mirrors. So, be suspicious of That.
      Aside from this advice, Only a massive amount of research over many years into a great many things will allow you to develop a sense or filter for what is crap, and what may possibly have merit.
      You judge and interpret based on what you Think you know. What knowledge you have accumulated to date. Your mind Wants to see patterns, solve puzzles, and fit square pegs into round holes Just to make sense of it all.
      NEVER allow your self to think you have achieved ultimate knowing and knowledge.
      The illusion is So complex it allows for you to fool your self. It already takes it into consideration.
      Keep your mind Open to new possibilities. Don't write what you Think is a fact, ion Stone.
      And remember, Proof, truth, and facts are subjective.
      What constitutes such for one person will Not necessarily be accepted as such for another.
      Lastly, remember the red pill blue pill conundrum from Matrix. Some minds are So comfortable living in the lie, the illusion, that they will Defend it with their life and their sanity to keep it going.
      Its Part of that great insidious plan.

      No one can tell you or Prove to you things like takeover plan, Hybrid program, implants etc.
      There are steps on the ladder of data and info that YOU have to climb for your self before you can get to a place where some of this data makes sense and can become a possibility in your mind and belief system.
      You cannot jump steps or ladder rungs. Do the researches for your self. And then do some More. Examine the subject from Both sides. the debunker And the believer.
      And then when you think you finally Know? STILL don't make a decision based on it. keep asking. keep your mind open to the changes New data will bring.
      This, or like ME....
      You will surely go Mad. ;)

      Mad as a VARAKIENEN.

    2. Hi and yeah thanks again and I agree I need to discover the truth of these things for myself, and I do believe in implants, hybrid program and takeover but I am just saying that what I believe comes from the few real accounts of other abductees, Bud Hopkins, and such... but when it goes beyond people's real experiences and everyone is claiming to "understand" what is going on.. well how can they? Who is this source that I don't yet know about who is so "in the know" as to their plans and programs? I am saying that I don't think this person exists and we who research this don't know as much as we think we do. I don't think ANYONE, not even military Generals really know what their program is and everything about this on the web is just speculation... unless there is some great source leaking out major info that I don't know about? Do you know who it is hmm..??? You've researched a long time, you seem to know what you're talking about, where do you get your info?

    3. In future, please sign your notes. So that we know whom we are speaking to for obvious reasons.

      My sources are too many, too myriad. I listen to the skeptics and debunker stuff nearly as much as the support and believer stuff. You have to to be able to feel out what is real and sense the patterns and develop a filter.

      I will start you Off with a good source.
      Project Camelot.
      Not every thing they encounter, interview investigate is entirely valid.
      Even They admit suspecting as much.
      But they do come up with the Best of all sides, the most pertinent of materials.

      As for generals knowing? Some do, some don't.
      Its a matter of need to know. Information is given in cells. so that No one holds it all.
      Bring the cells together and you will have a bigger picture.
      I would say that Most generals, know there is an agenda. Have been groomed for their positions.
      They are on board with it. They know there will be a mass depopulation. They know that there is a take over.
      They are let to Believe that for their cooperation, their position and future is assured. And to an certain extent, it Is.
      They think they are going to get more out of it for the species than they are giving up.
      In a way, that is also true. There will be peace, world wide. There will be prosperity world wide.
      Greater technology and convenience will be had for those remaining.
      A Golden age if you will. And it is an accurate depiction from a certain perspective.
      What they are Not given to understand OR, have been conditioned to not care about using MK Ultra or just sociopathic grooming techniques which have been in use for centuries by the royals and elites, is that free will shall be the price tag. Independence, species rights, individuality, and a great deal of spirituality will be the price tag.
      It will be a pleasant form of slavery.
      Further down the road long after the take over, the species will be tweaked to reduce emotion, to ignore things spiritual. It will be done on both a social conditioning level And a genetic level.
      Growth as an individual or soul inhabiting body will be brought to a near stand still.
      We are currently a species that is short lived, highly emotional and spiritual. This makes us incredibly adaptable as well as easily influenced. We are also fast to learn and grow from experiences gaining wisdom and lessons experiences learned Much faster than Most species out there.
      But. Many of those species don't care about that. It is irrelevant, and inconvenient to their goals and agenda's. (Many, not All.)
      Those species are a part of a consortium, like a giant Company or corporation if you will.
      Words you may have heard before to describe more accurately what they refer to them selves as may be, Dominion or Domain.
      They take young worlds not by force. But with out ever firing a proverbial shot.
      They encroach, influence, tweak, and nudge. they find people whom are considered the cream and seduce them with knowledge and direction and power over many many generations.
      They Groom entire families, like the Rothschild's royals and elites to do it all For them.

      ...To be continued.................

    4. Continued......

      And its working.
      We needed to be brought to a state of technology where we could be influenced en-mass.
      Global media.
      We needed to be enslaved to a system to which IF we refused to cooperate within it, we as individuals would starve and die. Money and capitalism.
      I could go on.
      In closing, yes, the Generals are on board.
      But they do not at heart understand what it is that we will give up as a species for what is being provided.
      Lastly. There is Nothing. Not a Single thing which will be provided, that We as a species Cannot or do Not have the potential to eventually provide for our selves.

      Iceland arrested all the corrupt bankers and politicians. At least temporarily, they have freed them selves from the machine which grinds the world ever closer to to this agenda.
      Whats needed is to do the same World wide. to Eradicate those at the top.
      The most powerful of the families. And weed out their conditioned and paid for minions.
      Sadly, the illusion is so pervasive, the adgenda So far along. People So distracted, ill educated on the matter and kept in the dark, that time has come short to make the corrections.
      And too few know enough about what is Really going on, to come together en mass as a unified force to put a stop to it.
      Not at the bottom and work your way UP as the system in place would have you attempt through proper channels. part of the illusion of voting and petitioning.
      But from the very top and down.
      But my voice alone is an tiny irrelevant thing. And I can prove Nothing.
      All I can do is prepare My Self spiritually. And attempt to wake some people up along the way.

      Be well Anonymous person.
      Do please put a name to your posts or make an account.


  35. Hi and thanks, I am getting a clearer picture now of where you are coming from. So I went to Project Camelot and yes good they deal with mainly primary sources, not good that both the sources I have looked into so far, well one claims to get his information from past life hypnotic regression and the other from telepathic communication with ETs... now you are a clever guy and I will give you credit by continuing to check out this website to see if I can find something relevant. It well help me if you give me a few names of people whose stories you truely believe, for example Charles Hall or someone else and no explanation necessary, just a few names, should only take a minute, thanks again!

    1. Something seems odd about your manner of inquiring.

      "I will give you credit by continuing to check out this website".... WOW, lucky day!

      You should go fish for information elsewhere.. "should only take a few minutes"

    2. Sorry. there are no quick answers.
      I mentioned the rungs of the ladder.
      Project Camelot has massive amounts of interviews and data. On a rather enormous amount of subjects from crystal skull to hybrids to alien agenda, to Illuminati, and so on.
      It takes years to understand that the majority of all of this is all interconnected.
      If I said JFKs assassination was loosely connected to Alien visitation you would think I am Nuts.
      But if you did All the research your self and found out how Illuminati is being influenced by non terrestrial entities, that they head clandestine secret societies and manipulate the world through such, that JFK gave a speech about exposing said secret societies, and that ultimately he was to close to doing just that and they had to get rid of him.... You would understand the connections.
      These are the rungs on the ladder that if you do not know of them, you cannot simply make the leaps to the next rungs and still understand what you come face to face with, with out those missing pieces .
      SO much of it is connected. almost all of it in fact.
      From Big foot, to Giants, to our junk DNA, to some people with mental abilities, indigo children, crystal children, alien abductions, Atlantis, crystal skulls, free energy being kept a secret, JFK assassination, Britney spears shaving her head and having a break down, Micheal Jackson being publicly accused of child molestation and discredited not long before his own death, Annikai, Nibiru, Angels, demons, possession, false flag events, 9/11, the loss of your freedoms and deterioration of the constitution, suppression of marijuana, with holding the cure for cancer, aspartame in your drinks and fluoride in your water.
      ALL of it connected and I could go on for hours listing it all.
      You will get No quick answers from me. If you truly ARE interested, your own Need to know and understand will keep you asking question with or with out guidance.


  36. see that's exactly what I am talking about, I did research every conspiracy imaginable for 4 years. There isn't one you named off in either of these two last comments that I haven't heard of. And that is why I'm concerned. We all know these conspiracies, we all know most of them have some kind of truth behind them, way behind them, and we all know how to 'connect' them all together into the wider conspiracy canopies of alien, economic, corporate, religious, political, dumb down the masses and so on and then connect them at the tippy top with the Rothschild/Illuminati/UN pyramids... and then what? Do you see what I'm saying? After checking out the website you gave me I strongly believe it is a waste of your time, I didn't see anything truly relevant there but I saw a lot lot of nothing. By reading the various comments you've made I feel like you spend a lot of time 'connecting' everything together but only 10% of any of that information is *relevant and I feel like you are not really getting any *real answers to your questions. And by the way I admire your passion to seek answers. I just think you are searching the wrong way, meaning the way 'they' want you to search on this endless rabbit trail. I think what you need to do is find 2 or 3 really good primary sources. Also reading the elite's own documents yourself. A good hint I can give you is that most of the stuff you believe is actually disinformation or just irrelevant, like Reptilian nonsense was made up and spread by David Icke and Annunaki nonsense by Zachariah Sitchin... Also anything religious, like you mentioned demons, possession, and concern for your spirituality.. well how do you tell someone.. Ok I may not cross that boundary. But I think you are believing 10% truth and 90% disinfo or just plain irrelevant and that's actually not even so bad. What's bad is you aren't really getting the answers you ARE looking for neither am I or any of us really..(hint, hint) Do you see what I'm saying?

  37. I see what you are saying.
    But in that we have had perhaps 3-4 very small conversations in total, I believe you are not in a position to assess what I do or do not know, have information's on, or have insights into.
    And I can tell for a fact that you did not give the lines of info that I afforded you a chance. You seem to want all the end answers right now with out the middle bits which get you there.
    I am sorry, that simply isnt possible.

    Is MY information or data accurate? AM I just fed into the dissinfo?
    Well, I certainly view info from All sides, never limiting my self to certain categories or certain view points as you suggest that I should. So, whom can say. Not I, and, certainly not You.

    I believe we have come to the end of our discussion as it can likely only become circular from here.
    I wish you well on your journey.
    Lastly, I would like to note to every one else reading this...
    One of us has a name and has made an account and is ready to be accountable for all the things they say.
    The other........

    Bows and leaves the circle.

  38. alrighty, well it has been taking forever to type up and edit my experience, and its really long, but I'll put the first part on here which is like 1/8th of it

    I was 11 years old. I woke up in the middle of the night after having what I thought was a very significant, important experience but that felt like a dream although I knew it wasn't a dream. I woke up my mom who was sleeping on the couch in the living room and told her that I had a strange experience and that I need to write it down, and she told me that I should and to let her get back to sleep. I remembered as much as I could and wrote for hours even though I was 11 and it was the middle of the night. The first draft and then a second into the daylight hours. Being only 11 when I did my best to interpret these memories I likened everything to a school field trip with teachers, students, school buses, popularity, "good" and "evil" people, and interpreted much of it religiously because I knew it was not a 'normal' experience and that some of the people in it were not human.


    I was in an underground city in what I am assuming to be around Area 51/53/54 for most of my experience. First I was in what seemed to be a large, round white open and somewhat empty space and there was some large round structure in the middle so that when we walked we walked around this feature in a curved rather than straight line. I am assuming this to be an aircraft hangar since there were at least 2 spaceships just above the ground of it and it was mostly white and empty. My first memory was of my sister, a boy, and I walking together in one direction toward the one space ship and my second was of the boy and I walking together in the same place but in the opposite direction without my sister toward the other space ship. The boy and I stopped and were standing at two large bowls, one of shiny small Snickers candy bars and one of shiny quarters. He left me for this other spaceship to my left yards away from me and inside the door I could see many many lit-up, colored buttons so that it looked like an arcade inside. He really seemed to want to go there and was indifferent to the fact he was leaving me. I didn't know why he was going away nor did I really care and I did expect him to return. This memory is scattered but before he left I had put 2 quarters in the one bowl and took a candy bar from the other bowl. Then I read a sign that said candy bars were $2.50 so I went back to the spaceship we had started from, it was elevated off the ground and the "Teacher", as well as some kids were inside but my sister was not and only a few of the kids were there. It was the 'gathering' place for all the kids and teacher while in this underground city and that was just understood, it also seemed to be the place we came from originally upon arrivng although I don't remember arriving. It was dark inside and the environment inside it was unlike the environmnet outside it. I apologized for taking the candy bar before I saw the price and asked if I could borrow the difference (LOL I was 11). I have little memory of what happened next but I was not "in trouble" at all much to my relief and there was less communication exchange than what I sought for between those in the room and I. They seemed to be a tight bunch, with understandings amongst each other that I wasn't included in. I don't remember what happened next until the next part of the experience which was in a somewhat different location

  39. I wonder why this story is still at the top of the "Popular Post" column for all this time.. meaning, it is the most read story on this site, and there has not been a single comment in almost 3 months? Come on my friends... let's hear what your thinking. Much Love.. to ALL.

  40. Also- wondering why there is no longer a recent comments section on this site? I enjoyed that feature.

  41. And the last thing I want to say is.. whoever wants to help the human race, with all of its folly, foolishness, ignorance and selfishness, but can still see the promise of what we represent, including all of the various genetic hybrid beings, yet keeps abiding by this "do not interfere" nonsense, even while every being on this planet is having its freedom and existence manipulated and interfered with on too many levels to mention. I ask those that are able, to reconsider this "do not interfere" nonsense, and help us out of this increasingly dire predicament we find ourselves in.
    No one is free on this planet. We are all at the mercy of dark, evil, selfish, and heartless ones, who will drive us to the same fate the Mars experienced. Environmental Extinction. WTF IS GOING ON? Things are not right, and everyone knows it somewhere deep inside, yet no one will speak it. We need help.

  42. RR.
    You are Not alone.
    Yelling and exclaiming draws no ear s that will listen.
    You know what you know, until that knowlege is refined further by new data.
    Flow With it. Change With it.
    Be calm as you breath.
    Find your peace.
    I watch. Jay is watching.
    Others as well.
    You are not alone.
    What is, is what was meant to be. Has to be. To deny it is to deny growth.
    Some times steps backwards are needed before steps forward can be readied.
    It is the ebb and flow. Flow with it.

    Beat not against the wall, your head. The wall is your own choices, your own construct.
    Yell not against the wind. It already knows.
    Look within.
    There is time.

    All water meets the sea, no matter the paths it takes. All sea's return to the stars. And so on.
    You are water. And more than water.
    Find your flow, in all senses of the word.
    There is no Alone.


  43. I thought I wasn't supposed to "Chuck a Barney"... what the hell is a wobbly?!
    I love you all, and miss the philosophical/real life exchanges that we have had over the years now. I feel like we have all grown much.
    Jay, my friend.. I'm not sure why you can't contact me.. email is still the same.
    I know what I know Jay.. I just don't know what to do anymore. Even if someone's listening to me.. what will change? I seek to change this life on the deepest of levels now.. from the inside out. I don't know if anyone understands that, but I hope they/you do, because it's all I know, and comes from a place of unconditional love, and hope for the future, and faith in life. Much love to all of those that care. I hope to hear more from all of you. Till then.

  44. Jay- what do you get when you combine chucking a Barney, and a Wobbly... a Barnbbly! That is 10 times worse then either one, and I've chucked a few over these last few years. In fact in the last year alone I have learned and understood so much Jay. I.. like you, have learned to speak little of the real truth. Most people could not begin to accept 5 percent of it. There is however, something to be said. It is healing to speak from the heart, to ask hard questions, to show your confusion and vulnerability. I have listened to you Jay, and heard you heart. I feel your hurt and confusion. I hear your strength and insight. You hold back so much of what is inside, and what you know. It takes great courage to stand against the pressure and speak your OWN words, share your OWN truth. The collective, the Watchers, the ignorant, those with an agenda.. all would despise one that is original and sincere. THEY FEAR US.
    If all is lost, and hopelessly going down the wrong path... I ask then... what can we lose from speaking and sharing the truth? How much more hurt could we know at this point? I know I am not bound by the same limitations and burdens as so many are, but ultimately we must take risks, and give all that we can for the truth, the future and The Living Spirit. How else will it ever come to be known? I am here for you always Jay, as is Vara. I think about you, and your child often, I wonder if we can trust them, some of them anyway. On some level we have no choice. We can however, learn as much as we can about what's going on. Thru that process I have learned that we have something that no others do. It's inside and can never be taken away. The game is one of deception. We must trust ourselves, our intuition, and the silent allies, the one that NEVER show themselves... those are the only ones we can trust.
    Much Love my friend.

  45. Actually Jay... I have had all those experiences, more than once. Everything except for the "equation" part. My mind is terrible at math. I wouldn't know an equation if it slapped me in the face... but the other stuff... yes.
    Jay. You need to find the center my friend. I have noticed that you seem to bounce from one extreme to the other, quite dramatically. You must try to find your center, and not let the myriad of manifestations of the mind, and actual reality, upset you so much. THIS TOO SHALL PASS. It's sounds cliche... yet it's true... every single time. Be strong my friend.

  46. I've heard this man before and he has nothing to go on except his, 'memory'. Well, now a days that doesn't cut it... with no proof or anything to show for it he is like anyone else who can claim to have visited or seen aliens. No photos, no documents, no videos, no nothing... no deal!!!

    1. Thats OK.
      We dont Mind that You are the Only person here whom does not have a soul.
      And we wont accept that You have one, unless you can Prove it.
      You know, with photo's, documents, video's, and such.
      But, I my self dont listen much to those with out a soul. They could end up leading me astray.
      You know how it is.... sorry.


    2. I miss the unrelenting wit of Varakienen. I believe my journey is coming full circle. Finally... Some might say. Time will tell. I hope your well my friend. Don't be a stranger.

    3. In truth my old friend, I shouldn't have done it.
      I have been trying to be a better person and such.

      ~ V.

    4. Your's And Jays.
      And soon enough, My journey as well I hope.
      Give her what energy u can. She is in pain.

  47. Here is the italian version of the charles hall inverview

  48. ufoAmiable articles and the blogs really helped me a lot, thanks for the valuable information.

  49. Its amazing how much ones perception can change over the course of time.

  50. Well what I will say is Im fresh and new to this sight and when I saw of a white alien race it shocked me. A few nights ago I was in that dream state where you are aware but yet asleep. And I don't follow alien talk or any of the end days nonsense but I saw the white being run behind my house (North Georgia Mountains) I grabbed a flash light and the battery was dying so it was a dim light. I thought omg there is an albino bigfoot! I don't follow that talk either but I was startled. It ran threw the woods I'd never run threw. Theres weeds and trees down and vines and who knows what else. So your story has intrigued me to learn more.


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