April 11, 2013

Scientific proof human race was created by aliens 2013

A group of researchers worked for 13 years at the Human Genome Project (Project completed in 2003) indicate that they made an astonishing scientific discovery: They believe so-called 97% non-coding sequences in human DNA is no less than genetic code of extraterrestrial life forms.

Non-coding sequences, originally known as "junk DNA", were discovered years ago, and their function remained a mystery. The overwhelming majority of Human DNA is "Off-world" in origin.

After comprehensive analysis with the assistance of other scientists, computer programmers, mathematicians, and other learned scholars, Professor Chang had wondered if the apparently "junk Human DNA" was created by some kind of "extraterrestrial programmer".

Professor Chang further stipulates that "Our hypothesis is that a higher extraterrestrial life form was engaged in creating new life and planting it on various planets. Earth is just one of them.

Professor Chang further indicates that "What we see in our DNA is a program consisting of two versions, a big code and basic code." Mr. Chang then affirms that the "First fact is, the complete 'program' was positively not written on Earth; that is now a verified fact. The second fact is, that genes by themselves are not enough to explain evolution; there must be something more in 'the game'."

"Soon or later", Professor Chang says "we have to come to grips with the unbelievable notion that every life on Earth carries genetic code for his extraterrestrial cousin and that evolution is not what we think it is."

Human Genome Project Discovery Implications associated with "Human-looking Extraterrestrials"

The implications of these scientific finds would reinforce claims by other scientists and observers of having contact with 'off-world' human looking extraterrestrials.

The 'off-world' human looking extraterrestrial have been claimed to have provided some of the genetic material for human evolution, and that many of these extraterrestrials have allowed some of their personnel to incarnate as 'star seeds' on Earth in human families. These "star seeds", "star children" or "star people"

Human DNA encoded with extraterrestrial signals


Now in 2013, scientists from Kazakhstan believe that human DNA was encoded with an extraterrestrial signal by an ancient alien civilisation.

They call it "biological SETI" and the researchers claim that the mathematical code in human DNA cannot be explained by evolution.

In a nutshell, we're living, breathing vessels for some kind of alien message which is more easily used to detect extra terrestrial life than via radio transmission.

"Once fixed, the code might stay unchanged over cosmological timescales; in fact, it is the most durable construct known," the researchers wrote in scientific journal Icarus. "Therefore it represents an exceptionally reliable storage for an intelligent signature.

"Once the genome is appropriately rewritten the new code with a signature will stay frozen in the cell and its progeny, which might then be delivered through space and time."

The scientists also claim that human DNA is ordered so precisely that it reveals an "ensemble of arithmetical and ideographical patterns of symbolic language".

Their research has led the scientists to conclude that we were invented "outside the solar system, already several billion years ago".

One mystery remains: If we were the creation of aliens, who created them?

source: agoracosmopolitan.com , news.com.au , discovery.com , arxiv.org , orln.gov

290 comments:

  1. We once were a powerful race, with high civilization and spirituality, until we were conquered and our genes tampered with, turning us into pasty and stupid slaves.

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    1. That is new idea.. the evolution of life varies so differently from civilization to civilization of billion of years ago starting over and over again. Scientist of course can't identify it so they flag it as extraterrestrial origin with the aid of longing who we are and who created us.

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    2. ...not so varied as you imply...no two parts of the whole are identical no matter how close related in space time or how great separated...yet all share a high degree of symmetry and reflect the same whole...so it is, and it is so...
      wf144

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    3. I agree that our race was tampered with and hijacked and we need to get it back.

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    4. Hello,Suzy.I have long believed that we are the product of Alein DNA,Coding.It all started in the Garden Of Eden,Let Us Create Man In Our Image,and it was so.These beings were of the Circle,of which I did write about on this site.The two Races they are the oldest,The ones of the Circle,and the ones of the Triangle,the Triangle ones are from the pyramid times,and they are at War with each other.And have been for thousands of years.The beings from the Circle are the oldest of the thousands of all of the different beings in our universe.The war will soon involve Humanity,and of that there will be no escape from it,the War,that is.Now this war that has been involved with the two races they do have allies,of the Circle and the Triangle.Now these two alein races the dominate ones,both are involved with The Governments of the World.For high technology weapons ect...The War has been won and lost on different Earths and different Planets.Now all of the Triangle ones are Trapped,Imprisoned on each Earth.Now the Triangle ones,can travel through time,past present,and future of each earth,but they cannot leave the planet.Now that is all I have to say.Thank you.

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  2. Now THIS is a loaded topic, and among the Biggest secrets they will want to keep covered up.
    Like studying any mechanical lock, one can eventually fathom what the key must be shaped like to open it, or, in this case, what the Code may be to activate it.
    Sound, Vibration? A specific signal? Visual input? a certain frequency of specific types or patterns of various radiations?

    This is among the most fascinating things currently on my table.

    PS: Vain wolf, I think you have your data in reverse.

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    1. ah ha!..."all is vibration..."
      wf144

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    2. HMM, Maybe it really IS you back with us WF144. ;)

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    3. ...at the bequest of dear MdK..."only to observe"...(und vielleicht ein bisschen von einmischung) ...did I not tell you, you would not be alone?
      ...good to see a new level of temper in your blade dear one...
      Namaste
      wf144

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    4. And You dear.
      Your voice had been sorely missed.

      It is funny that you should say "you would never be alone".
      Of late I do not feel it as much. I feel as if other souls i know well but have forgotten are not far off, have been here all along.
      I feel more tired than lonely, and long to be with them again.
      But I know, my purpose here is not yet done.

      Still, it is good to hear from you. Reach out to me through the aether if you will. I shall try to receive you.
      Be well.

      ~ Varakienen = (The absence of, nothing.)

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    5. *...(und vielleicht ein bisschen von einmischung)

      And, Do feel free to interfere, if only a little.
      ~ V.

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    6. ...always with you in the space between breaths...ok to rest from time to time...and remember we chose to spend this now here...true?...(the reflection of all things !...absence of nothing)...be well dear one...you need apply no effort to receive...with you even now...here...

      waveform144

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    7. Personally I believe the Message is loaded. Once it's unlocked and known it will indicate our readiness to join our respective cosmic families!

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  3. love the way you think Varakienen. Resonant frequencies have fascinated me for some time, DNA repair etc... but more recently beta, alpha, theta and delta cps

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    1. Jennifer, we should have a chat.
      Add an @yahoo.com to my name and write me please.

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    1. Varakienen Hello,I did write down some of my theroys of how to create a Blackhole,to done by the Circle ones,in deepspace. They,the ones of the Circle,will send out a drone craft into a nearby galexy with the Device and thereby detonate it.If successful it the Detonation will be seen from the earth as a Supernova,hopefully if successful a new form of energy.Subatomic Energy.It the Device is to Dangerous to Detonate,Activate,on the earth.And we,Mankind,do not have the Technology to send the Device into deepspace. Aaron,was correct in assuming that the Device would be sent into deep space,Also,the astrological location will be monitored craft,and time of Detonation'Acctivation.This will eliminate the possibility of a natural Supernova Occurance,in the astrological location.This is very interesting to know that the effect will be seen by Astronomers in the right Hemosphrere.The delivery Craft depending on its,the Crafts,speed which uses notrinos to its propulsion,so I believe its,the Crafts time of arrival.That,the ETA,Estimated Time Of Arrival,to the Detonation Location,should be just moments.The different Crafts that are known to Us,are many.The Propulsion Systems are Cosmic Top Secret,there are also Hydrological,meaning they use water to propell the crafts,which I do not want to mention were I learned about it,Hydrogen Propulsion.This is the newest form of Propulsion,Therologically that is.So we does have some knowladge about it,these engines.Of course,they,the Crafts,will not be known to the general population for years.The Circle crafts have never been recovered or otherwise known about.I did have some Knowladge about the Cryiptological Formations,on the Crafts.We believe that the Crafts are Biologically Manufactured and living organisms.Thus I believe that the Reptilian Beings that I believe evolved with Mankind,were known to the Circle ones and the Triangle ones on the earth.That the Biologically Manufactured Living Organisms that have high levels of their intelligences,like Mankind and other,beings.That they did create.

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  5. We are the forefather and ancestors of the Aliens

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    1. no .. the aliens are OUR ancestors. it all depends on wich alien race you are speaking of. blonde hair and blue eye'd people are that of the Nordic/ Aryan Martians. they arrived on Earth between 6 000 - 10 000 Years ago. Beleived to have come from Mars. They were here long before us!

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    2. Yeah I must be from the Nordic/Aryan martians from Mars! RESULT!

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    3. Hello,There are many "Races that come from many planets"out of which we are some.The oldest are of the Circle.Ezekial Chapter 1;28 "Holy Bible"And they,the ones of the circle,were the ones that did design "MAN".Also they,the ones from the circle sent a messenger to the "Mohawk People"who told them the "Mohawk Peoples Shaman,about a "Special Child.If I recall correctly.Now the second oldest race is of the triangle.These ones are War like beings,are at War with the Circle ones.Something to do with"Enslaveing the ones of the circle.And the ones of the Triangle are "Trapped on each earth,"Something was written in the pyrimids,to the meaning of this was written "Ancient Barrier Remains Intact".Because the triangle ones were the ones that can "View,see into every room,from the past to our present.And the future.Remember now all the earths have different "Timelines so when they do view they are not garuented to see the truth of each planets timeline.Now in regards to the WAR'it,the War did start how we do not know,They due blame eachother for it,the war.Other Planets do have Council of Planetary Affairs.Which what I belive it,the Council will be on this,earth also called that.In regards to all of the ones that are here.Their Inter Planetary Crafts,are able to jump,from earth to earth,time to time,situation point to situation point.And the harvest that is done on each earth everyday,what is non as The Rapture"to the Jahovah Witnesses,Also the planets all have a different or similier evolutionary processes,some same timeframes that are milliseconds seprate apart,to the beginning of each earth and planets.All have beginnings and endings.The truth of the situation is that the following statement will be hereby made by myself,I Robert Brule Do hereby declare that our solarsystem is,just an atom,of which there is many.Also when "The Gouverment did detonate the Neuclear Weapons they did in factuality Destroy other solorsystems with intelligent Lifeforms on them.Thank you!Good night.

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  6. I have told you all before on here that ALIENS CREATED THIS WORLD and everything on and beneath it,Now they have Scientific Proof of this,
    SEE I ONLY TELL WHATS TRUE ON HERE,,,check out my older post on the other site if you want

    Jason!

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    1. Ah ah, don't be so convinced. That is only the present fact and it eventually change in the future finding.

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  7. They also inspired relegion to boost our morals to higher conconciousness,tho new age conciousness has evolved sprung from seeing the sense from the nonsense of relegion that many are now ready to recieve and not living by blind faith anymore.
    johnkarri23@yahoo.com

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  8. no, you only want to invent an alien god to justify anything you do, so anything goes and nothing is wrong... well, that's not how it'll roll for you in the end.... sorry.... As "old-fashioned, outdated and fragmented as it appears to be, or whatever you thin... the Bible has all we are meant to know... "

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    1. Sadly Untrue.
      The bible has been re-written and re-written.
      By Man. its first author.
      The conquerors of old re-wrote it o suit their propaganda needs and assert control over an uneducated populous.
      Originally, Primitive minds misconstrued what they were witnessing to begin with.
      Our entire history has been subject to interpretation and corrupted retelling.
      You probably dont even realize that JEsus, "The Christoforo" a title not a name, was darkly colored of skin, and his name pronounced Hey-soos.
      That he was not nailed through the hands to a cross, but through the wrists, to a large X ex, and propped up. As crosses were not used in that time or place, but were introduced to the scene by those whom wanted to make a mockery of other pagan cultures and beliefs later on.
      Christs followers were killed on a cross hundreds of years after.
      The amount of untruths told or twisted is astonishing.

      The bible and church beliefs were drummed into you and the rest of society that You grew up in, because it was drummed into the elders and their elders. But along the way, little things have changed, and been accepted as gospel. over time, these little things add up, and taken in or out of appropriate context's can and Are meant, to mean an entirely different thing.
      Huge portions of the original bible story have been left out so that you will Only understand and accept the context for which the new authors want you to accept.

      Know how many gospels Really exist? and not merely the ones in the bible?
      Know how many of those contradict the ones that remain?
      Know any thing about the book of Enoch?

      Ill bet you dont.

      Royalty and high priests in far gone times, were the Only ones allowed to be educated and read and write.
      They made it a Law that peasants were not to learn more than rudimentary math, so they wouldn't know they were being cheated, and couldn't read or write so they could not translate the truth or spread it overly well.

      We live in a world based on lies and misconception, and those whom hold the reigns even Now do not want you to know more.

      Its up to YOU to step away from the path placed there For you, and research for your self certain long lost facts and truths.
      Trying to research them from the path provided will only continue to provide well placed building blocks and walls for the lies from those whom provide them.

      Be well.

      ~ VARAKIENEN.


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    2. Very well put, Varakienen. I couldn't have said that better myself.

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    3. Not true at all. You must have read too many history books WHICH WAS WRITTEN BY MAN, YOU LOVE SCIENCE WHICH WAS CREATED BY MAN!! You do not know for sure (unless you was there) that only the royalty wrote and seek knowledge. Did you know that the bible was rewritten a trillion times SO PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE LOST CAN BE EASILY INFLUENCED, by the notion "it was written by man, don't read it". Did you know that they had wars and wars about what should be in the bible??? Think about it, why would you go to war over something that was just something that was man wrote. Yes, some churches are brained washed because human look to the wrong people for direction. You for example you believe everything a person put in a history or science book. When later on GOD created all. But you are forgetting the #1 THING MAN HAVE TURNED THINGS AROUND. WHILE FOOLISH PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF LISTEN TO EVERYTHING THEY SAY. SAD. WHY LISTEN TO SOMEONE WHO IS IN THE FLESH. At the end of the day everything in the BIBLE has or will come to past. Whether you like it or not. I think it's said because in Enoch (one of the books that was taken out of the bible) and revelation states that people will deny the knowledge of God. For the bible to be rewritten a trillion time?? it seem to be in the right direction... Side note If aliens was created by humans??? Why the hell are they research, abducting humans (trying to figure that ish out?). Every case you have heard about someone getting abducted they was either forced to have sex with a extraterritisal or their baby was stolen. If you created something, there's no need to research, what's unknown is not unknown to the creator. I have one question when someone die in your family or when you get hurt, who are you more likely to call on. OMG (as in God) or ALIEN help me. When the last time did a Alien wake you, up.??? or Kept you from danger. If you can reply back and say oh yes a Alien did. Then you win. Please get some wisdom. I am not going to judge you. However, I will pray for you!!

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    4. CHAN.
      Actually, angels and demons are Aliens.
      this has nothing to Do with god or religion.
      A "Trillion times, re-written huh? wow. a Trillion.

      My friend, you know nothing about me.
      For instance, I believe very little about what we are taught as normal accepted history. I believe that the majority of the science institution is manipulated and owned, and that we the public are lied to about a great Many scientific things.
      Your' portrayal of EVERY abduction case is severely miss informed dear.
      You are greatly misinformed about the scientific process of keeping track of your "creations" and up dating your data on their progressions.
      We don't experiment on mice, and then never check up on their progress, we definitely go back to those mice and take a look.
      When some one dies that I care about I dont call on any one.... well,... Maybe the Ghost busters, but really, Who ya gonna call...? right?
      I am happy that you will pray for me, and I willingly accept the energy you donate there. Thank you.

      Now, in future debates, Do please come more educated on the subject matters and prepared. You are certainly entitled to post an opinion, but the majority of your statements had nothing to back them, and no leg to stand on.
      Be well and thanx for the prayer.

      A whole trillion,.... wow.

      ~ VARAKIENEN.

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    5. You let um know VARAKIENEN :) Love all your comments btw

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    6. Hello I just spoke about "God,and that was what I belived in.God is a enity that has no use out of anything but itself.But I will say that the Bible does record what people did see with their own eyes.And there were alot of writtings that did not make it into the Bible as we know it today,These unpublished writtings will be made public.Of which there are in the Vatican.In these Books there are Drawings of Beings and Crafts,and also artifacts that have Significant Importence when the Beings Come Forward.These books will bring mankind together to show ounce and for all that all the Faiths are one.Thank you!

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  9. VARAKIENEN

    You rock man/woman.. I don't know :)

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    1. ;)
      The truth, IS out there.

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    2. Im with you Varakienen. I don't believe in most of things been thought with us, so I begun to research and time to time, little by little understood reality. I now awakened and walk freely but still have lot of questions bugling in my head for our origin and the origin of the universe.

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    3. I cant give you the origin of the universe, but i strongly suspect it is neither biblical in explanation nor is it necessarily big Bang Theory. Mostly, because the universe is Far more than Physical, and in fact matter and physicality is one single thin layer/level, and likely the smallest part of it.

      But feel free to ask away about the rest. ;)
      ~ VARAKIENEN.

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    4. ...haha...a male artist with deep intuition...or a female who welds the blade like a surgeon...is there a difference for you?...I lie with V's subtle intuition...though I do get the point time to time...(my host is male)...a clue...strength is strength...
      wf144

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    5. ...sat here with hand raised for some time (ya think i'd get the hang of this)...assuming the BB/universal expansion, what is it expanding into?...
      curious...

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  10. Biological seti's nice! And were the message too, hope its a good one. (knew we had a purpose :)

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  11. This is so stupid.

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    1. Whats stupid, in my personal opinion, is the inability to open ones mind, and see past the veil and lies and cover ups.
      To Purposefully Remain with intent, Ignorant.
      This is what tends to define stupidity for Me.

      ~Varakienen.

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    2. i respect your open mindness, but you should display a little humility because you sound just as stupid as the rest of the bandwagon. Your just another another opinion that's following the ignorant. The Scientist Carl Jung ahead of the Genome Project admittingly said that he follows astrological signs sometimes within his scientific studies. Prof. Riichard Dawkins made him look like a complete quack for even partaking in this new so called '''scientific Consciousness Theory'''....which is just that, the same as religion A THEORY!!

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    3. Angie.
      Your voice had no validity for me.
      Perhaps you would like to rephrase your statement with less condescension.
      When you make a statement with more leg to stand on, I will be listening.
      ~ VARAKIENEN.

      (Shall we condescend together? or move forward instead?)

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  12. Of course humans were created 2013. Everybody knows...

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  13. Check out Erich Von Daniken's book Ancient Astronauts, a very old book but still make a mark on anyone that reads it. It really does ipen your mind and make you sit and think about how we were created. As Var says the Bible has been updated so many times, have the lines blurred, is there much false information.

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  14. Read the Hebrew bible. King James was the one to translate it first. Quite a bit of you sound atheist at best. If you actually read the bible it would make some sense that they are aliens. Aliens of our world as we know it? Sure why not, but I don't beleive that God etc. is an alien.

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    1. Sadly, James and his cadre of the time took liberties in the translating's.
      Well, it was a little more like they twisted some things, left out some things in just the right places so that it would read as they Wanted it to read, and in some cases, added what they damned well felt like that is NOT actually in the dead sea scrolls or hebrew texts.

      Now, where did I leave those missing gospels and the book of enoch and.... etc etc.

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    2. If god created earth is seven days what planet was he standing on ? the father the son the holy spirit . = Earth Sun and Moon three planets that create life on earth and that halo around Jesus head is the sun Man standing before God whats the most religous day of the week ? there is only positive and negative no god and no devil warmth of the sun that makes life grow ice and cold no life all the ancient religions new this and worshiped the sun as the creator of life . modern religion turned it into a business ''

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  15. Please read Exo-Varicana! By Cris Putnam and Thomas Horn. It talks about Aliens and where they came from, how this information will be used to fool a lot of people. etc... etc..

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  16. Answers ... you look for it with your entire being yet you do not see that which is before you , your kind says that the truth will set you free but you remain enslaved by your mind . Extra Terrestrials , Religion , Cause , The Economy , even your schools ... it is all illusions created by your minds to question that which you do not understand or know . That which you believe in only encourages more questions , more questions means the more answers you search for ... it is a continues battle of the mind that you will never win . You may search but you will never find that which does not exists .

    Your friendly Neighbor .

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  17. Havent other countries confirmed et's working with u.s goverment. Or so they claim. And what about all the ancient carvings and hyro around the world? In my own opinion i highly doubt all that was created by the government. I mean common. Wé have pyramids with energy commin out of the top of them. The ancient people of this earth knew about somthing they thought created "man" and it sûre as hell wasent a person nailed to a cross. Im not by allmeans smart in anyway but any dumbass can tell our todays culture is based apon false religion and liés.

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    1. Hello,All the gouvernments of the world are well awere that there are beings on the earth.And not only on this earth but other earths as well.Their Technology is so far advanced that we can not belive their abilities.And if we were to wittness their abilities we would go into Phycological Shock,According to some of the thinkers,such as myself.And we have studied their Abilities and reached the conclusion that the Public Civilian Population is ready to be lead out into the light.With their consent of course.Thank you.

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  18. Hey Varakienen...

    I love the patience you exhibit when receiving highly charged rebuttals to your claims. :) Pretty good.

    So what are your thoughts on Vibrations, Math and the Law of Attraction in regards to Aliens?

    I was listening to this today and it resonated (no pun intended after you listen) very high with me.

    I'm not saying I discount GOD as the sole creator, but I do see a lot of valid points in believing Aliens exist.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5sZi-OocoU

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  19. Im not all that patient. Its just an act.
    Vibration and frequency is EVERY Thing.
    Never found my self all that attracted to an alien,... yet. lol.

    God is a universal consciousness.
    But there are Many creators.

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    1. . . . and You, are one of them.

      ~ VARAKIENEN.

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    2. LOL.. You should win an Oscar then. This is such a Juicy topic though, I love it... I'm on the sidelines for now.

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  20. Humans are being created each day, hybridisation, updating genes, manipulating DNA. It's out there and it is happening but what are the ramifications...Like all those thousands of years ago, the homo sapiens were created, an intelligent species. Is there some other species in line to take over us? Survival of the fittest!

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  21. I agree with you Aaron R.
    Your comment has the most factual base than others on here. Scientist Carl Jung has not proved nothing. His research is unprecedented. In fact renowned ethologist Professor Richard Dawkins disagrees with Carl jung's theory and offers a good explanation why. The professor says the Scientist premises is based on unconsciousness theory, and does not coincide with evolutionary facts. The pysiological effects of evolution has proved itself by adaptation, and all DNA can be traced back to our very own planetary formation.

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    1. Angie.
      You last sentence...Inaccurate.

      ~ V.

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  24. The bible is only good as tp it has no answers and god is made up. The bible should be in the syfy section at the library

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    1. On the contrary, like all legends the bible also has origins in fact. They may no longer be accurately depicted, and they may Never have been accurately interpreted, but they still have great merit.

      By the way, I TRULY HATE this Anonymous text thing.

      ~ VARAKIENEN.

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    2. ...it is said the words of the master are only for those with ears open...
      wf144

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  25. The "Words of the Masters" can be found in random blogs, newspaper articles, cheesy books/movies, and almost anywhere, including the old texts. Our perception and awareness gives the words meaning...

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    1. ...it is so, and so it is...the essence of "as above, so below...matters not where one casts gaze when the sleep has been removed from the eyes...no thing is with out truth in it...be well...
      wf144

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    2. WF144- I know we didn't see eye to eye a while ago, but I appreciate your insight and wisdom. I dropped off the map for a while myself.. Take care.

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    3. ...eye to eye is a vision of soul dear one...a new depth and calm in you...much healing...wisdom comes drop by drop...ok to drop off for a time...in my thoughts...light...be well dear one...
      wf144

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    4. SEE, I am not the only one to have recognized.

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  26. As above, so below.
    Many of you have been in my thoughts.
    Thank you WF.

    Stay Safe

    Jay

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    1. ...and you in ours dear one...

      a few "opinions" to interject to the discussion...though it requires some level of elevated perception and discernment, many secret truths encoded in the writings...I would suggest focus on three books in particular...the first, the last, and the book of Enoch/Metatron...

      ...in this vein, "elevated perception and discernment" requires a bedrock of truth...even more ancient than the writings in question...given by the dear one of many names...Hermes, Li Tzu, MdK, Thoth, Shem, Melchizdek...
      I would suggest focus on three..."all is mind"...might want to let this sink in...correspondence, "as above, so below"...given as your key to perception..."all is vibration"...even beyond 3-space, no thing of consciousness, creation, mind, matter, energy lies beyond the truth of harmonic resonance/ vibration...at the center, the harmonic of light in free space...144,000...familiar?...music to those with ears open...

      be well dear ones...
      wf144

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    2. eyes open you see the world how it really is.

      Plastic!

      Time has a place here. A movement, a journey to an end.

      Only a select few will hear my voice. I wait for them.

      Cruel intentions are bought forth to those that speak to soon.

      welcome back wf144.

      Stay Safe

      Jay

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    3. ...good to see even in the remote down under, humor has not eluded you dear one...
      ..."plastikos"...
      capable of being molded or modeled.. capable of adapting to varying conditions... pliable.. capable of being deformed continuously in any direction without rupture...a hard point to argue...haha...
      now time on the other hand, not an actual thing...more a concocted illusion of mind...that said, does provide a convenience...gets to be a mess when all things happen at once...;)
      ...you are in a safe place...
      wf144

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    4. Wave

      I really could turn you upside down, hold you by the ankle, give you a little shake and ask a few questions.

      Give them something new to think about. Science can't prove some things.

      Stay Safe

      Jay

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  27. ...maybe turn me right side up!...more pudding please...
    you stay safe dear one...no thing for I to stay safe from...
    be well
    wf144

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    1. I won't be able to lift you if you have to much pudding!

      This topic reminds me of a barren place where a blade of grass struggles to survive. Yet it does with all odds against it. The roots hold fast, never giving up. After awhile that barren place has been transformed.
      Change happens in all things, human included.

      So much information in the human DNA. Still mistakes are made, repeated ones. Maybe a reset to come.

      You will always be safe.

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    2. ...your words are art and have already lifted me. Always a reset to come...round and round...as to the pudding, I am advised it is where proof is hidden...
      be well
      wf144

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    4. ...the last question...the last shall be first..."all is mind"...chaos but the unraveling of the perception...144,000, the harmonic of light in free space...below, matter things of three space (and 4 and 5 space...clue and warning in this)...above,3rds, 5ths,7ths, 9ths...same old song..."just a drop of water in the endless sea" ...your choice...light in the balance...haha..
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    5. I wish that Meant some thing to me.
      Sadly all those references are gibberish with out explanation.

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    6. ...endings/beginnings...faces of mind...the first "law"...all is mind, yet the science of this time states it is entropy...but what do you see?...wither you look inward or outward...neg-entropy...the self ordering harmonic mind...the music of THIS SPACE written in the key of light in free space...given in seconds of arc, 144,000...not by chance though the meaning of it obscured, this number so often repeated in ancient texts...as well, there are places,...and entities, that resonate in a different key and do not hold the best interest of this place in heart...as yet, you no more know your strength than an acorn that has fallen to the ground, separated from that that gave it life and buried where no light reaches it...when the time is right, the light will warm the earth and life will reach for the light of stars...sleep is a part of awakening...it is so, and so it is...
      Be Well
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    7. ...an implied redundancy...5th...typo, or of some significance...felish un tone connects octaves...or a typo...haha...u decide...

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    8. Please. PLEASE. Sign your work.
      When obscure clues and references are made, I seek to bring clarity. And thus my mind seeks to re investigate past phrases from same people and compare to find unity and clarity in comparison. with Out knowing who's words to look back upon, it is an near impossible ocean to compare with.

      Please ye Anonymous people whom seem Unwilling to create an account...
      (which flows the word Accountability)
      ...Please sign your work at least.

      ~VARAKIENEN.

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  28. RR you seek knowledge but doubt what you learn. Why?.... Look within. This is your own personal journey. One of which you have shared a little with me and I hold that close to my heart. Much love to you my friend.
    More is remembered in a state of calm. It will come to you.

    @ Wave I have truly missed you.

    Proof is in the pudding! Ha
    Got to get the mix right!

    Stay Safe

    Jay

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  29. Why? How can I explain the feelings and emotional upheaval that come with waking up to my whole world being subverted and manipulated. How can I convey how hard it is to know what to do when I have been mislead, tricked, psychically assaulted, bombarded with contrary messages, and sabotaged at every level. Some say it is all under control, we should just relax and rejoice... some "re-set" button is going to make things right. What do I know..

    I am alone, have all this knowledge and awareness of whats happening- but can't share it. The world around me is under a spell, and the people are either hijacked, aloof, or in a disquise. I am tired of the game. I am tired of being alone, and the only person that speaks openly about what the fuck is happening.
    My mind is fried, from trying to interprete so much, hidden, or placed in my awareness from so many. I got here ONLY by looking within, and listening. I am still lost. I just feel life on such a more intense level than anyone I guess.
    Games are being played, by many who act friendly. Why?
    Walk in these shoes.. bearing witness to the loss of freedom, and freewill, alone, and misunderstood by all, and perhaps caring too much, but not knowing another way. It just keeps going.
    I know the Spirit, the Magic, and live in the beauty of this Life. I can not ever look away, but I loose my focus sometimes, and doubt remains... mainly because the darkness is at my doorstep, and all around, and nothing changes. Only words... many hints, and promises, but so far, only words.

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    1. Maybe I should turn you upside down by the ankle and give you a shake!

      Sounds like you are feeling sorry for yourself. Get over the self pity and wake up.

      You may feel I am being harsh but only because I care.

      What is it you want? Do you feel the need to have acceptance from others?

      Having a tantrum, doing your head in, chucking a barney will not make others listen to what you have to say.

      There is nothing simple about you. You are quite complex, full of emotion.
      A choice you alone have made.

      As for nothing changes...... look at yourself.... you have changes with in, grown.

      Words in a way are a KEY....some words are felt.

      It's your choice to let the darkness in and snuff out your brilliant light.

      Much love

      Stay Safe

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    2. Dear RR...you are not alone...you are as yet subject to the human condition...part of which is the illusion of separation...a physical impossibility but one that does create desire for oneness...no part is of other than the whole or reflects other than the whole. In this is the understanding that all truth can be found in any part. Another aspect of the human condition is what I time to time refer to as "puzzle logic"...the tendency to reduce a thing to its most complicated form!
      On this return I have for the most part shared from the ancient teachings of dear MdK...and will do so again...the second law...correspondence...as above, so below...profound meaning in this as it offers understanding of all things at any scale...micro or macro...to look quietly within and come to understand the truth of even one small thing...knowing it applies at every scale...as above, so below...so it is and it is so...
      Be Well
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    3. Congratulations.
      You are Waking up.
      Stay the course.
      Your emotional growth and spiritual growth Will catch up with your logical and knowledge growth.
      You must be This wise, to go on This ride. The Journey is at Least as important as the destination.

      Now, excuse me while I tell my Self the exact same thing. ;)

      ~ V.

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    4. ...dear V...I do hope your assessment correct...on that note, time for a nap... ;)
      wf144

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    5. Wave... I think I suffer from hyper-mega "Puzzle Logic". I could over think putting on a pair of socks. I hear you though. Thank you.

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    6. Everything will work out for the best.Let the world give you its gifts and have faith in yourself.There is always another day.

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  30. The conflict within me is hard to explain. The place I call home is a hub of science and biology. Things are unusual, people are different. I find the balance, and look within, I hear many old voices...memories. I recall the many visions and dreams from my youth that shook me, and made little sense at the time. I have been given an alter from the Stars to work magic thru. I am young still, and naïve.
    The many subtle ways that information is shared has been so confusing. Who are these people arriving here by the numbers? Young, highly intelligent kids.. with ties to Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, and other players in the Aero-space/ Defense industry. Why do they know me, and keep subtly giving me hints as to their background.. the same that my family has? I feel this hope, and expectation from them, and so many others. Do they think I can do something? That I am different? I can see it all. I just don't want to turn my back on them, or be tricked into doing nothing, in the name/game of Spiritual Passivity- One of the oldest tricks in the Manipulation Handbook. I don't expect anyone to understand whats happening here, or how it has created such a conflict inside me. The answers come from within. Perhaps sharing my weakness is a bad idea, but its no secret. I did not CHOOSE this, but I accept it, because I know I am not alone... yet I am, and yes, at times, feeling sorry for myself, and others.
    Thank you for seeing me, knowing me, and for caring about this place.

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    1. ...as much as one would like it to be so, simpler than you think...release those things you cling to each day...new will flow in, if there is space...matters not if an other understands personal message to you...
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  31. Jay-

    "...chucking a barney..."

    LOL! I have no idea what this means, I'm guess its an Australian saying? I thought a barney is some kind of rodent?
    Love you my friend. Thank you for your patience.

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    1. It means loosing your temper.
      Hope you enjoyed the laugh!

      One day Mr D I will sit down face to face and have it all out with you!
      I'm very good at holding my own. Scared yet? You should be! lol

      You don't need to be so serious all the time. You may give yourself a headache or a nose bleed.

      Go have some fun. If I lived closer I would drag you out myself!

      Stay Safe

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    2. Clearly I am not perfect, but I make up for it with foolishness :-)

      I wish I had someone to go out with... I don't doubt you can hold your own. I look forward to it though. Till then...

      Mr.D

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      When I come to the States I will let you know where I am.

      Til then my friend.

      Much love

      Jay

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    4. ...dear jay...you are in safe place...Amadon suggests a few weeks supply for daughter?
      wf144

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    5. Dear Wave..

      Yes, it has been done.

      The others?
      I will go to them.

      Stay Safe

      Jay

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    6. ...other awaits and HAHAHA...difficult to say, but others, let them go...wish I did not have to say this, heavy on my heart...be assured even this in passing...find your strength in this dear one...did you not come to plant seed?
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    7. My words have unsettled you. Hmmmm
      You make it sound like a mission. Be wise with your words. Is it not you that speaks?

      It's easy for some to say "let them go" they have not lived in this world and felt it deep with in.

      Do you not have foresight? A glimpse? Yet you still doubt.
      Number 9 is full of surprises.

      I wait also...for other...
      The tongue that comes naturally is not understood.
      s
      My name will be heard by oneself from other.

      Stay safe and stop fretting

      Jay

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  32. One mystery remains: If we were the creation of aliens, who created them? // Another race of aliens created them - download The Message at www.rael.org/request.php?1

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  33. We are the cross-breeds between Lemurians and the Aliens.

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  34. What created this, what created that creator, what created what was used to create, of what does it comprise and where did the building blocks of that come from? Goes on and on and its a mega mind fuck. I don't even think the most advanced aliens could answer the origin of origin of origin and the forces that caused it.

    All theory. Everything is more than you see or perceive. Use your mind and pick your own flavor of kool aid and you lived a wise life. Thinking anything is simple and can fit in a book and your only open to direct sight so your as useful as an ant scouting the andes. Might be able to assess the hell out of any grain but the big picture is always going to be out of reach.


    Just for fun I'm going with we were once 9' tall high tech peacelovers with ocean cities and pneumatic titties and because of war protesters on the invaders homeworld they decided not to commit genocide but instead to neuter us. That way no corpse but they could trust we wouldn't spray our cum and piss in what the law of superiority decided was there.

    I will defend that theory to the dea....with a thrown pistacho shell


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  35. ...not at all dear one...were you not taught "all is mind"?...the line of created/creator but process...allow music back into your life...mind fuck such a boring game...

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  36. WF

    My life will be full of lightening soon.

    My words may seem peculiar to others but I know you know what I mean.

    Jay


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    1. I could use some Lightening.
      Even En-lightening. But lightening will do.
      Perhaps it would expand me, heal damaged neurons, and open pathways long sealed.

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    2. I do understand dear one...also that all for a reason and not with out layers of for-thought...your other is with you even now, always...could I provide an open line I would, that said, your connection much more direct than mine,...full fill your purpose here now how you will, the link will not be broken...a survival program for your daughter as addressed significant in this...most of the rest, comes and goes...do be reminded all preparation is done in advance

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    3. ...I do hope this without undue chill...wish it were otherwise...knot can be done by you for others...focus on that you have seeded already dear one...from this the next generation and that to follow,...some of the crop left to fallow...this too has purpose nourishing soil for future generations...be well dear one...wf144

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    4. Jay. Do please sign your work.
      I like to define the persona whom wrote it.
      None to fond of this Anonymous posting allowing for people less accountability.
      Yes, I measure the words for what they are, more than merely from who speaks them.
      I would ASK that all people whom post how ever adapt a signature to their thoughts. Small respectful courtesy.
      This note address's sept 7s 4:50pm note.

      be well.
      ~ V.

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    5. I agree fully Vara how ever sept 7s 4:50 was not written by oneself.

      Thanks Wave! I didn't have to do a thing and Vara gets mad at me!
      Next time I turn you up side down I will give you an extra shake for that! One with attitude! Grrrrrrrrrr.

      Wave.

      I haven't been alone for quite some time. My connection is strong. Communication is somewhat stretched at the best of times. I see far more than I say. My silence isn't because I don't see or feel. I protect others by doing so.
      Preparation is constant. So heavy at times is the burden one feels like she is being buried. I long for the time of flight. To be with one.
      My light is hard to conceal. Strength from ages past lightens the burden. Memories...bright and warm. The space for future unwritten starts to fill.
      My water falls. I want to voice a new vibration. Prepare is what I have done from the beginning of this life. Never dead always living.

      A wink for you 9

      Stay safe

      Jay

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    6. Never mad at you Jay.
      Sounded like you. Want to know who.
      Some things said and referred to, want to know how and why.

      Dont have your connection it seems. Seek it none the less.
      We should whisper with one another away from here.
      Much to learn or, re-discover / awaken to, pieces to put in place.

      Need.

      ~ V.

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    7. Vara

      I give Ron permission to give you my email.
      We can whisper any time.
      Remember the flame....

      Stay Safe

      Jay

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  37. Dear V

    You have experienced so much in your life already.
    Yes you have made mistakes! Who hasn't? It's always harder to forgive yourself.
    You how ever learn from yours. You are stronger, wiser now than before.

    You helped calm me some time ago. I let fear rule me. I was lost in it. I was just a mess.

    Don't let emotions rule you. Yes still feel but don't let it rule you. Control you.

    The seals will crumble. You have the wanting.

    You are not alone.

    A little zap here and there can do wonders.

    Stay Safe

    Jay




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  38. My friend do some more research on the book of enoch and what it tLks about. There are reasons why certain books are not in the bible. What about bible prophecy? Have you done yiur research? The masons are withholding information/truth from the world. The truth of jesus christ. The only real answer to anything. How long will we ponder for answers? Why would a lovong god be secretive? Whats the hope for mankind....spiritual ascension? Ive come across people who claim to be enlighnted, but the demonic stronghold is so severe you cant even have an intelligent converzation with them because we christians are brainwashed, manipulated from our beliefs and fears. Truth be told, aliens/greys/nephellim/paledians and reptilians sre demons, scurring around the 5th dimenzion. Knowledge is power/words are power. Theres evidence of the truth and valilidty of the bible you just have to look deeper then you already have. Enlightment is mumbo jumbo, enlightment is accepting and believing in christ. Does it mskes peoplez lives better? Are they happier when they do what he says? Yes. Proof. What are the trsits of an enlightned person to you? I mind you certain people have spiritual gifts from god.

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  39. The book of enoch was found quite sometime after the death of christ, in aramaic. The author is slso unknown, but there are opinions on who wrote it becsuse enoch himself which jesus mentions in fact did not write it.

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    1. ...was actually written 800 years before....no secrets held from you...only held for you when you are ready...I do not refer to the motive of masons or other groups...only truth...only one you must prepare to receive it...further, you are free to reject as most will, organize and have a party!...indulgence of ignorance delectable!!!...all things taste sweet that support beliefs...yet beliefs are but those things excepted as truths that you do not know to be true...some what bitter in the end...

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    2. I agree, a belief system that people follow is considered the truth to them..... Everyone has an opinion on what is the truth of the universe. But when u look at facts, secular and non-secular scholar workings, there's more evidence of the validity of the bible and the biblical worldview then ever before. No other book has had an an accurate account of how our world willl, and has, unfolded than the Bible. Its the simplest of truth yet many will choose to deny it.

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    3. ...and your point?...what truth have you come to know? in all case's truth written between the lines...from it, what do you know?...unfolded simplicity...the thought of it refreshing...
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  40. Copied from another post / thread.

    Some times I think I may evoke a meditative state of sorts when I merely sit to respond, read, type here.
    Notions come to me that feel beyond material and time thinking.
    Interference, on a physical level, direct or other wise may not be what We think. what we want it, wish it to be. Not part of the greater plan.
    All that happens, was meant to happen, will happen, was meant to.
    Beyond good and evil, the universe in the physical sense will still turn long after this sun has become a red giant, collapsed and burnt out. Long after the souls that have frequented physical form and flesh here have moved on to new experiences, many, not even in the physical realms.
    In the larger eternal scheme, the tiny things that happen here at the given moment enrich the experience, give it context, but are essentially not all that relevant compared to the greater journey. In this, truth becomes universal.
    The lies and corruptions of the moment in the little minds which mire them selves in the physical, forgetting their greater journey so that they can more fully experience this moment separated from greatness.
    The lies we tell our selves because the mind in its current limitations Needs to anchor it self to some level of understanding, no matter weather it is the universal truth or the truth of the moment based on our experiences and limited temporary perspective.
    Even the soul I feel has layers. Like an Onion if you will.
    As your body is merely a layer which your soul will wear for the time of this incarnate experience, so too are their other layers to the soul it self. Bodies of energy and consciousness that we as mortal fleshy minds cannot fathom.
    It has been suggested that the soul can be devoured, that there are evn some aliens entities, demons which do so. like food or fuel or sustenance. But I now think, only a level, layer, body is being devoured.
    There are other layers untouched that move on to other experiences. merge with other souls, mingle, separate, move on.
    When time exists not. When the universe burns out in the physical and renews. All that has happened here seems less relevant.
    These petty greed's. lies of governments and illuminati's.
    Even alien cultures whom manipulate and deceive operate at a level refusing to embrace such a notion. But one day, they too will See. All rivers lead to the ocean. some take longer more treacherous and winding paths.
    I think we as humans were given a gift to move forward more quickly. too quickly perhaps?
    Emotions run deeper here. lessons harder.
    The grand experiment moves on. And one day, this level of it, will have reached the ocean and new levels of the grand experiment will be proposed.
    I don't bother with the bible, written by men whom either sought to gain control, or, misinterpreted events, and twisted them to meet their own limited perspectives.
    The message is more important than the words or the details or the rules others would have you cling to.
    Truths and wishful thinking's, are merely things of the moment, all but lost in the souls journey to find the Whole.
    Those aliens or entities whom care about us may be onto what I speak of. And thus, interference / intervention, having our backs, may not come in the form we think or wish for.
    What is was meant to be.
    Soon it will simply be time to move on now, move forward.
    Move.
    Change.

    ~ VARAKIENEN.
    (The absence of nothing)



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    1. ...whew! (going to skip a little)...beyond good and evil, but a reflection of both, polarity, +/-, no thing exists but in the balance, ...in fact, naught but the balance shall you see, tainted here and there with light and shadow...
      ...not so re "the tiny things"...no part but of the whole...if a part be insignificant than so be the whole...
      as to lies, be mindful all truths are but half truths...no coin without two sides...
      let your eyes weep with the pealing...
      even as one is devoured, in the body of another...
      ...yes...merge with oceans...where identity is lost...
      ...grasp the gift and move quickly...
      ...do not confuse the old an the new...one written by man...both with meaning and intent...
      ...wishful thing likely of the moment, truth pervasive in all time...not lost in the grandest or simplest of things...only thy perception of it lost from time to time...
      we watch front and back equally...if you wish your back watched more, trade with others of your kind..."motive" of greater perspective, not perceivable in lower states...or there would be none...
      ...move on now...
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    2. wf144

      You have written so much.......... left things for others to ponder.....
      now you have an urgency with in you.

      Are you Ok?

      Stay Safe

      Jay

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    3. Greetings dear one, the urgency not my own...that of another somewhat pre-occupied for this time...committed to but observe...I am, well...as much time spent above the horizon as below... siding with the spring...keep your seed safe dear one...
      wf144

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    4. I could use a little time above the horizon.

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      I feel that urgency. Some thing new observing. Some what clumsy.
      Drawn like a magnet. I am confused by it.
      I am ever so tired.

      Stay Safe

      Jay

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  41. This game that is being played... is something. I clearly do not understand all of it, but I feel it. Lineages, bloodlines, rules, laws, traditions, treaties, principles... whatever label you care to place on it. I find it strange.
    Whats clear to me is that there are many who perceive themselves somehow better, or more intelligent than others... who feel somehow ok with manipulating people and situations from behind the scenes and other ways, yet can not see how the many versions of the manipulation have left humans and the earth so scrambled, fucked up and confused that they are hopelessly doomed. WHY? Do not interfere!? Are you kidding someone? Are you interfering?
    Decisions are being made. Choices, about the future of living beings here. Who is being consulted or briefed? Who is making the decisions? Have they lived in a mind that has been manipulated since its birth, yet expected to do better? I am suspicious of things that going on secretly. Life has nothing to hide. Its raw truth and beauty, intrinsic freedom speaks for itself. Anyone would should be able to understand this. Anyone.

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  42. There is such a demand on wanting.
    Wanting to know what your purpose is, how to travel with only your mind. How to contact "aliens". Wanting to see the other side. Another dimension. Wanting to remember past lives. It all goes on and on never ending.

    I ask all of you that have this wanting... Where does that wanting come from?
    That wanting that so many have is already changing this world.
    Some have it so bad that they even take drugs to get closer to being out of this world. To see things that normally they can not. Searching for answers.
    A pill or a little piece of paper under the tongue will not give you the answers you seek. So many have perished in this way.

    I ask another question.... What is it you are wanting so much?
    Where do you think your answer comes from? Does it come from with in?

    I am tired of humans asking and demanding others for answers in which they themselves are the only ones that can answer. I do not mean to offend. This wanting needs to be addressed. This wanting is world wide.
    Is it the beginning of a new consciousness? Think on that as you will.

    I have also been asked about being united. Do any of you feel that all on this world could work together? Could all put aside differences?
    I don't see how most could to be honest. You battle with oneself.

    This world is so loud.
    I wonder how quiet it would become if all humans stopped. No vehicles, planes, trains, boats, no work, no factories nothing. All humans stayed home and became quiet. Most would find that very strange. Would you hear things that you otherwise wouldn't? Would your thought patterns change?

    If you can not find the answer you seek. Wait and have patience. Live your life. Be happy. Experience this world. Make memories. Be kind to others as they are no less important than you.

    Remember we all share this world. No matter what 'kind' you are.
    Remember how to trust. Sometimes it is taken away but that is like give and take.

    Stay Safe

    Jay

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    1. Good Post.
      you asked a question.
      I will answer it for every one.

      YES.
      I feel that the majority on this world could work together. Could put aside differences.
      The keys would be a global communication system which is Not censured.
      And the ability to speak or understand your fellow mans language.
      The things which have been keeping us in strife, and in separateness, have been almost entirely, unilaterally created and propagated by a powerful few so that they can gain control out of the chaos they create. This has been going on for some time, but people are at last becoming aware of it.
      Those aware have come together in other lands to over throw corrupt banks and governments.
      Iceland, Egypt. and more.
      "Do any of you feel that all on this world could work together? Could all put aside differences?
      I don't see how most could to be honest. You battle with oneself."

      Ultimately, my answer is,.... YES.

      That which You claim to grow tired of is in fact a natural part of this awakening process. It is unavoidable.
      If you would be a part of it, or have the privilege of being here to witness it, then you will have to grow some patients for it and a thicker skin to deal with it.
      I for one will NEVER stop reaching, never stop asking for the insights and potential answers which I believe can be found Both out side, AND INside.


      ~ VARAKIENEN.

      Be well JAY.

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    2. Once you reach and grasp that in which you seek I am staying well out of the way!

      Stay Safe

      Jay

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    3. A big ego takes up so much room. Then again it can also make space very quickly.

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  43. I find it interesting I am unable to post comments refuting opinions from a biblical standpoint.... Nothing I said was neither harsh or bad.... When it comes to it, simply.... Why wouldn't a creater loving or unloving, want to hide truth from us? Because we not ready? If we were created by aliens then it would be their obligation to instruct us on how to live, what to do. Truth is in the Holy spirit. Literally A spiritual barrier that brings joy, happiness, hope, and understanding to those who have humble hearts.

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    1. This last, was a good solid post. It was not touting the bible so much as it was debating from an intellectual not religious view point. A point from which others can identify and return debate, which, I shall in a moment.

      I doubt any posts were taken down for religious content alone.
      They likely had an insulting tone of condemnation to them and contributed little or nothing to the subject in and of it self.

      Now, My debate stand point. Are you ready?
      I have questions for YOU.

      1- Why Would a creator want to hide truth? I can come up with a few reasons, same as why a parent hides a gun from a child. Or matches, etc.
      But I am curious to hear Your stand point on it.

      2- Why "Would" it be the obligation of Aliens whom may have created us to instruct us?

      You would Have to know there reasons for creating us to begin with to even begin to hypothesize on such a topic. Their motivations, their cultures and their own history and so on.
      Lastly, you would also have to have an Accurate history of Man.
      Governments and science communities and church keep such histories under tight wraps and feed you a propaganda history which suits their needs. This Includes the Bible You were raised with.
      Next, you have to remember that much of the ancient histories would be viewed by a more primitive man whom did not have points of reference to understand what they were witnessing, and so they tacked on words like angels, gods, demons, miracle and so on. Much truth can be distorted by misinterpretation, and repeated mistranslations over time.
      Whom is to say that they have Not instructed us. repeatedly. In fact there is tremendous evidence to say that they Have. And I am in No ways referring to biblical events.
      Building techniques found world wide. Similar to exactly the same. Pyramids, roads. Monoliths, henges, and so on.
      Agriculture. Writing. language. Animal husbandry. and the list can go on.

      Do please answer number 1 and 2 for me.

      ~ VARAKIENEN.




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    2. I have my opinions on your questions, but my mind works in faith... There are some things I choose not to ponder... As in why would God allow good people to have harm put on them?.... But to answer your questions i believe if aliens are our creators it would be not necessarily be an obligation....we can create a business, but is it our obligation to make it flourish? We have a choice to run it into the ground. We want to see our creation flourish because human beings are prideful, not for the sake of benefiting others.... In most cases not all...OK so they are waiting for us to enlighten are spirits? That's where it gets shady. When u research concepts of enlightenment and the process of being fully awake, you find a hogpile of information that can make a man crazy. A logical thinker would think that a creater wants us to know the '' secrets ''....to better humanity, to benefit our physical and spiritual world. But what is those secrets c9ould do harm.. There is a seduction to the unknown, to power, to curiosity in things of a spiritual nature.... I believe us humans need to be conditioned/brainwashed/spiritually manipulated over time to accept a concept of alien as creators..... Which we have. U can say the same thing of Christians, conditioned over time by the powers that be to benefit '' their'' needs. But Jesus, the MaN proclaiming to be God in the flesh, was not bringing religion. He was bringing himself.... Redemption for man's ways. Evil has to be accountable, and any normal person believes evil exists. The inherit evil in men have done the manipulating of God's word.... I'm rambling now but the point is humanity is dumb, no matter how smart we think we are..., I have faith of a loving, good creater.... A good father protects his child.... The bible is our protection from a world manipulated by the theosophical society.

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    3. well, I don't believe you actually answered questions one and two.
      But that's OK.
      Ive done My share of rambling in my time.

      You see things inside the box. I see them more out side.
      I was raised a Catholic. Thus I understand what it is to break away from certain forms of conditioned thinking, and how difficult it can be.
      I have faith in god my self. But it is likely that you and I do not think of god in the same way any longer.
      The god I have faith in, does not require it. And I have seen no reliable evidence that the god the bible would have one believe in protects its followers.
      Just as I have never found reliable evidence that Hey-soos the Christoforo either was, or ever actually even claimed to BE, god in the flesh.

      I would debate with you further, but having done so with religious types before, I find the argument circular with no legs to stand on. But also, no way to show others that which they patently refuse to see.
      I content my self in simply knowing that all rivers lead to the ocean. And I will see you there when you are good and ready.
      Be well my friend. The Journey is at Least as important, as the destination.

      ~ VARAKIENEN.

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    4. In regards to this world I'm choosing to think simply...When you look at it from the outside, u see patterns throughout history leading to one thing, the attempt to deny Christ as humanity's savior. Your words are like poetry varakienen.... But evidence and historical data just about prove God's word has never been wrong, and what is says about '' the end''.... Is happening now. I appreciate your patience, I just pray u dive in deeper, because there is in fact deeper then it sounds like you have already gone.

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    5. I wanted to ask you..... I'm curious to what u think about the '' ascended masters ''?

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    6. Hello,I did speak about a lot of somethings,of which I have belived,to be true.Also the fact that I do know that there is some ansewers,to alot of the questions written on this site.I have written some interesting facts,on another site,Titled US Gouvernment Setting Up New Department To Run Alien Affairs"My name is Robert Brule and the site has to deal with The Aleins and all of the questions about them are all advanced intelligence,in the following:"Anonomus September 14th 2013: Robert Brule September 15th 2013.Robert Brule September 15th 2013:Robert Brule September 15th 2013.Yes,I am a employee of the CIA.Of which I am sure that there are indaviduals who can verify this fact.Although they can not publicly confirm or deny this fact.But they will know that what I say,and have said is true.

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    7. Dont worry about credibility or proving your self at this point.
      Just pump out the details. Make them known.
      Saturate us with what you have to tell and let the chips fall where they may.


      I AM LISTENING.

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    8. Ascension to me is when the soul leaves the body/vehicle... look at neuron cells of the brain and the cluster of galaxies surrounded by thousands of stars and dark matter... for the visual

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  44. Thank you for beliving me.Their further other abilities that they are capable of is,telepathic communication.And also haveing the ability to View,Into any room that has four corners,the ones that can do this are the ones from the "Triangle"the beings that did assist the building of the pyrimids.They from the past that can View,the past present and future.There is only four groups that are "Known"to have been involved with the "Genesis"Project"."COSMIC TOP SECRET.There is also the objects that have NSA,abilities.To which is to say,Their Technology so far beyond our understanding,we can not begin to comprehend ,it NSA,does have technology that the civilian population will not see for years.If you know what to look for you can find alot of the equipment.I am not at liberty yet,to say what to look for and how to use them.Although I will at a later date,I am sure.Alot of the stuff that they do is from the Seedcollectors"These are beings that copulate with"Man"and then sell their Spermatoza,to the ones called Designers.The Seedcollectors can present themselves as Fantasticly Beautiful Woman.Or as Males.They the Seedcollectors get 98 cents for each cell.Now in regards to all the different beings that are were in the Garden of Eden,there was a being that was a guardian over Adam and in another lifetime I was one.And they Designed me also,to which they the other ones,kept us in a chamber in the Atlantic Ocean.And I do remember their,our language.This is it:AH -to-ZH.AA-to-AZ,AA-to-ZA.AI-to-ZI,IA-to-IZ,AO-to-ZO,OA-to-OZ,AE-to-ZE,EA-to-EZ,AU-to-ZU,UA-to-UZ,..Now to the fact of what is going on right now,War"that is a fact and cannot be denied.Some people have the abilities to See or View as it were,but they all had a price to pay,to which is to say."If you do this I will tell you show you how to do this!So there you goe,They some of them make deals,people that is,and they use those alphabets to draw up "Contracts"And then there is the "Oh,Ahs"I am well awere of all of this.Some times people ask for things that are the usual Money,Power,Love,Abilities,Fame,Knowladge,Wisedom,Understanding,Of which I am not interested in.For I already have it.Let us not forget the ones that can goe back in time and see the sins,crimes ect...of people.Big Deal,I do not really care about that.When people pray they ask for this or that,I do not pray for anything,I just give thanks for living today.And am thankful for what I have.of which is modest.And also thankful for Health,Food,and a place to live.I am a born again Christan and I had an anomosity .Then God changed my life..I heard the angels singing.And was born again.Thank you once again.Robert Brule,

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    1. Hello Aaron.How are you?You can believe me.For I speak the truth about this.If I did not believe it,I would not say it.Yes,there are alot of people who are blind as to what is going on in the world.There are two truths in the world,Good and Evil.And those truths are Universal.We all have a battle with these delimas,everyday.The fear of ourselves is knowing what,we fear the most then overcoming it.Yes,there is a war coming and alot of people will not be ready,I am not one of them,this war will be,Universal.

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    2. I also agree that those two things are universal, it's a constant battle. I do sometimes wonder what it's all for and why the constant struggle. A war is also on the horizon, WW3.

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    3. Universal on the Physical plane and its near vibrations.
      Do not be confused into thinking that such conflict permeates all of creation.
      Duality and conflict are a means to grow and evolve. With out them, there is stagnation.
      But at some point such concepts become simplistic and childish, and that growth takes a new path which moves then, Beyond.

      ~ VARAKIENEN.

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  46. Hi Robert,

    I would like to know your thoughts on the illuminati cult that seems to have become a popular hit of late. All I see is people saying let me join and make me rich or stories of musicicians etc being part of it. What's your understanding of the Illuminati and is it satanic?

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  47. Hello,I am not awere of Illuminati.But I do know of people who make Arangments with beings that are concidered Evil.Yes,alot of people do Things that give praise to evil,and negative energy.Everyone has both good and evil within themselves,and makes choices in day today life of which one to follow.Satanic Worship is one of the most powerful,negative energy forces.And Christianity the most powerful positive forces.One can not sell their soul,nearly surrender it,making a deal is serious business.And only the most seriously evil does it.I do know this because I was evil and was saved by God.Although I did not make a deal,I knew of them.I did have the opertuity to goe into an initiation for the Dark Secrets of Satan.But declined the offer.I do suspect alot of people who are well known,have made Aggrements,with them,are in high levels of the Governments of the World.And this I know as a fact.Some of the Worlds leaders are manipulated by Beings that intimidate them,Man.I believe that I am here to help,Man.That is,there are beings that are at War with each other as I've mentioned before.The ones of the Circle,The ones that Designed Man,and the ones from the Triangle,the ones that did designed,the pyramids.They,the ones from the triangle are Aggressive in nature and Warlike.We,people do not know what is the nature of the War and Us,we suspect that it is an off world issue.Now remember that some of the beings are impartial to this War and themselves are from other worlds that are on simile time lines.Also the ones from the Triangle,are trapped here,on the earth.For the ones of the Circle did set up a berrier on all the earths,stating that,Ancient Barrier Remains Intact,So we concluded that the ones from the triangle,do use their abilities to extend their conncisness into the,past,present,and future to find away out.The fact that there is no escape,from any earth is enraging. To them,they can not understand what was their crime.OUR INTELLIGENCE points to a planetary genocide,as we concluded.From the knowladge we received.There is new form of energy namely Subatomic.Which I did design a new Craft that can propel our earth,as the craft,through Wormhole or a Blackhole.By shattering a photon,Light Particle.Of which I did also in theory explain this to the Beings who built it. On another earth and was sent through it to another earth of which was recorded.All of which was classified. Cosmic Top Secret.The substance for the device the main material is Liquid Class.Of which man did not possess.The Beings did have the substance.Did build it and sent me through to the other earth,at that time I did arrive there.Now the Beings,we do not know which ones are responceable for the cameras in the eye.That I did send in the Intelligence Report,with a design of the camera and its,the cameras,functions.The NSA,does have some simile devices namely Microphotograghy.The camera did record the entire event.

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    1. Hi Robert, thanks for taking time out to come back with a great response!
      It kind of makes sense now with the circle and traingle symbology, the circle being good and traingle evil. So much triangle symbology is being used everywhere as I say in the way of the Illuminati. It's like they are reeling people in to join their group but then using the famous to lure the general public in and preying on the younger generations. They are being brought up with their conditioning techniques and are blind to see what's happening.The triangle being trapped withing the circle also makes sense, the evil being unable to escape, as pentagrams are used within circles or as a source of protection within a circle.
      I like the theory on the blackhole too as I've heard it consumes all light in it's path and the last thing we see is the event horizon, is it these which can be used for space travel to other universes/time travel? Is there any other information you can share, I'm very interested.Cheers!

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    2. Hello Aaron,Thank you.I am pleased that you found my reply interesting.Yes,time travel is only possible through a Blackhole,or a Wormhole.Also through these we can travel to other Universiones,of which there are old stars dieing and new ones being born.And old earths dieing other ones at different levels evoloutionary development.I do have a theory of how to create a Blackhole,the only diffeculty is I do not know what the result will be.Of course I will not give the theory here.But I will say the device can quite possible cause a Subatomic Detonation.Or a new form of energy.Subatomic Energy.How is that for cool?The Device does use a Laser.And the main principle is the shattering of a light particle Photon.It the Device would have to be Detonated in zero gravity space.For if it was created within,the appmosphere it,the blackhole,would just float around the earth consumming particles and it,the Blackhole,would further increase in size getting bigger and bigger until it,the Blackhole swolled the earth.This would enable us to goe from universe to universe with our craft,the Earth.So there are two possibilities,or should I sayes threee possibilites.Also there is the problem matter and antimatter collideing,which would create a Big Bang,and is a very real possibility.Mainly the creation of a new Universe.I would like to communicate with Stephen Hawkens,to discuss my theory.Have you heard of him?Thank you.Robert Brule

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    3. Yes I see your theory to create a blackhole scenario for travel and it makes a lot of sense. They say a blackhole is created by a gigantic star exploding under it's own gravitational field, the impact so great that it creates a blackhole and get's bigger with the more it consumes, other blackholes. So I see what you mean by creating a false explosion of somekind to create the same outcome. Yes I've heard of Hawkins, who hasn't ha? Genius!

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    4. All things would die by the hand of man. Devices made by self consumed mad men.
      The future not thought about.
      Go on build your bombs, build your lasers to make black holes that will suck the life from this earth. Go on do it just because you think you can!
      Just remember you too share this planet with the rest of us.
      Man is so intent on destroying it! Each other. It sickens me to even read such things.
      Stupid people don't think of the future and the deeds done today reflect in it.
      I don't care if you have a science degree or think you are a genius ect. you don't get my respect.


      Stay Safe

      Jay

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    5. Jay.
      Impassioned response.
      Your message is valid of course. But not all men would have it this way.
      Only a very FEW men are intent on destroying it.
      The rest of us are trying to wake up enough to recognize the problem.
      Help us recognize. We are listening.
      I am listening.

      ~ V.

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    6. Something with that power Jay would probably not get past phase 1 because as you say it could potentially be a massive threat to the Earth. It would probably be a covert operation done far far away from Earth but not too far so we can still travel to this area. What you have to understand is that some science is done for the good of mankind and can actually help us in numerous ways but on the other hand can also lead to our downfall.Without progression though we would stagnate and no doubt become extinct so it's a double edged sword, as is everything else.

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    7. Also I believe that time travel is being performed from humans in the future that are coming back in time to our present. So what we do now is probably fine as there is a future that mankind is travelling back in time to now so we are still very much existing (I know sounds crazy and difficult to fathom). Also people from the future might be trying to put right the past and improving to create a better future. Even I'm getting confused now but you get the idea.

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  48. You are not created from aliens, but hooked to a machine to feed the machines. Wake up the Matrix Has you!!!!

    Morpheus

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  49. Think if we would of truly evolved here on earth ,we would have no problem surviving in the wilderness or oceans. Where are our gills, where is the fur to keep us warm, what about night vision. Why can't we see in the dark etc......... Professional survival instructors can barely last one month naked and no tools in the wilderness. Really. So what happened to us.
    We were created for a reason that may offend many , do the the research .

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    1. well, I cannot agree with your "gills" part. But there is some merit in your thought process.
      Still, the point others would make is that we evolved in "Adaptability".
      The ability to use our thumbs and minds to greatest effect. Our mind conceives a need and our thumbs provide the outcome. Not enough fur? climate changing for the colder? Take fur from others.
      Cannot use teeth and claw to hunt so much any more, create spear and sling.

      Look, I personally believe very little evolving has happened to man since the advent of ability to walk up right for a duration of time. That we have been repeatedly tweaked and altered, then left to spread those changes for tens of thousands of years through breeding, then tweaked again.
      Also, we are not told accurate things about climate changes in history.
      Evolving very much depends on climate and ecology lasting long enough to BE evolved into.
      How ever, it does not take much to evolve.
      If you look at dog breeding you will see a myriad plethora of breeds.
      Some so vastly different from others as should be categorized as a different species.
      Yet All came from but a few wild breeds of Canine. Most of those being wolves.
      All were purposely altered to increase a desired set of traits.
      The first known records of breeding are but a few thousand years old.
      Yet look how far a breeding program can take in such a short time.
      Nature does not have the same control on its breeding.

      Where was I going with this...
      I dont actually know.
      My thoughts are whimsical today.
      lol.
      Be well.

      ~ VARAKIENEN

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  50. Hello Aaron,You are correct in stating that the test of the Device would be done in Deep Space.Zero Gravity.I have no intention of manufacturing such a Device on the Earth.Just think about the Nuclear.Power,we now have and one of the down falls,is Nuclear Weapons.If we are going to travel around the Universe it would be fueled by nuclear power.Or through Blackholes and Wormholes.I to did have a theory that some of the beings are us,from the future coming back to the past,our present time.Some of my ideas are within reason,at least I think they are.I only have a Grade School Education,and mostly self Educated.I also believe that within the next 5 years,it will be a reality and well known fact that we have new Friends.We will have higher levels Understandings and Comprehesions.The truth of the situation is they,the beings,will take the selected few to their worlds,and we will learn new ways of living,and loving.Of this I know from Knowladge given to myself.From where I know not.This is just based on belief that all things will be made known to man,Us.And also the Device is going to be developed in the near future,which they will send one of their crafts into deep Space,and activate the Device,in the closest galaxy.This project like you guessed will be monitored And observed from the earth.The result of the Detonation will more then likely be the same as a Supernova.Which will be recorded as the Device Activated there.To be sure that it was successful and a man made event and not a natural occurance.I am very excited to be part of this adventure and look forward to it,the event.Even with their Technology they can not replicate a Supernova,they are also very excited with the Project.This is a new Manhatten Project,and they look opptamistic about it,the Project.This is now Cosmic Top Secret.And that is all I have to say for now,Thank You.Robert.

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  51. Bar Humbug! Biggest load of hog wash I have heard!
    Yes man has nuclear power but he can't contain that. Look what happened to one of Japans power plants. It still contaminates the planet. Just an example of what man can do but also how he doesn't think for the future.

    As for detonation of another device in another galaxy...............oh boy..........some one has been watching too much Star Gate!
    I would expect this sort of thing from a 12 year old. hmmmmm

    Stay Safe

    Jay


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    1. Aaron,Hello,Do not take everything to heart.People can have the freedom to believe what they choose too.Some of the greatest minds,were thought of as being Strange or Insane,in their times.Jay is just one of the people that will be amazed when the truth is known.My Knowladge is given to me,from where I do not know,I do not claim to be any more intelligent then anyone else.But my level of Reasoning is Advanced,I am well read.So when the Supernova does happen within Pacific time frame I do not know when,All I do know is that it will be soon.

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    2. Jay.
      You are loved.
      But this does not sound like You.
      Speak from the higher self.

      Star gate has merit. Fukashima was on purpose. Unprovoked insults, Unbecoming.
      Is that really You Jay? (Make an account)

      ~ VARAKIENEN.

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    3. Aaron.
      ",Do not take everything to heart.People can have the freedom to believe what they choose too.Some of the greatest minds,were thought of as being Strange or Insane,in their times."
      Truth.
      Some of what R Brule has to say rings true. But it is mixed with much that for me, does Not ring true.
      Sense some deception there. Not every thing claimed is truth.
      Motive at this time unknown. Not relevant.
      Take All with grain of salt, write nothing in stone. Absorb analyze measure, then gut check with deep inner wise entity.
      That which is right will slowly come to the surface over time. Corroborated by other minds which have been through trial and honed this process.
      Believe Nothing others say. Ask versus Every thing. Never stop asking. Never stop looking deeper even when you feel you may already have the answer.
      All new data adds to the out come.
      You are the filter. Become.
      the truth will remain and stand through the Askings.

      Be well.

      ~ V.

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  52. So many of us can debate how we came to be on this earth. Some of us see things differently to others. So be it.
    The thing is we are here, breathing the air, walking upon the soil. Loving, hating, preaching, feeling all the emotions from with in. Most living from moment to moment.
    Born and raised, taught by parents or such. We learn from those around us and from reading ect. We learn from each other. It's in the DNA. Some more so than others.

    What astounds me is that so many simple things are being lost as time goes by.
    The saying "you are what you eat" for instance.....
    Do you really know what you put in your mouth and chew? Do you know where it comes from? Do you put your trust fully into companies that produce what you eat?
    How many younger people know where meat or milk comes from? Would they eat it if they knew the truth?
    Would they eat it if they saw the process?
    Another saying comes to mind...."what you don't know won't hurt you".
    You don't know if you haven't been taught or shown. It's the way of this world.
    Work hard, provide for your family, consume this consume that! Be like each other. Do what each other does. Abide by the rules or pay the price. To me it sounds like conditioning.
    People have lost the reasoning to listen to what is with in. You have been raised this way.
    Instead of being quick to anger and acting so why can't you stop and think on why you feel this way?
    Does it make you feel better to smash a few things or perhaps hurt another physically?
    The point I am trying to make is that........look deeper with in.
    Feel this planet and the changes happening. Some people can feel a storm coming or get a gut feeling something is wrong. Some get aches and pains before the rains come. Some become bloated or feel heavy in the stomach area when the magnetosphere tightens around the earth. Others can feel light headed, very sleepy or feel like they may fall over. There are many changes that can be felt. This is only one example.
    Most ignore why they feel the way they do. Why do you not take notice of what your body is trying to tell you?
    Is it because you are too busy to think about such things?
    If you feel odd at any time take note and ask others how they feel. The answers you get may surprise you.
    The human race is quite sensitive.

    Stay Safe

    Jay





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    1. Agree with all.
      Sense your turmoil.
      . . . Take my hand.

      ~V.

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    2. From deep within my heart I am sorry if I have offended.
      I let my emotions over rule myself for a moment.

      I try so hard to shut down all nuclear power stations and weapons. It hurts so many living things. Even the unborn. I will keep trying to the end.

      To see such words written breaks my heart.
      A powerful detonation no matter what the source or what galaxy has consequence. So many things can go wrong.

      I don't understand why a so called born again Christian would want to build those sort of things.
      It doesn't make sense to me. Seems so dark.

      I live for love and light. It is my way.

      Stay Safe

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    3. You have not offended.
      You are loved.
      Find your center once more.
      I will see you at the center.

      ~ V.

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    4. Here Jay.
      Have a song.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgUFkyuaEyw&list=PLa2RrLG2Mmp5hTft8NSGCZ3rHFjhfO4I8

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  53. I'm with you Jay,
    Robert...activate the device in the closest galaxyI ? Really hope there is intervention, it doesn't bode well with me, just leave it alone... no to nuclear and no to creating black holes in other backyards :P

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    1. On This, I must agree with you Fully Jenn.

      ~ V.

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    2. Hello,If did or did not,build the device different earths have different time lines and that can not be changed.We as people must have a defence Against things like Natural Blackholes and wormholes,of which there is so little known about them we have no Defence.Maybe the Device would have great use for this.There is the real Probability That things like Astroids and Mediorities,that can collide with our earth,for which we have to know theeir trojectory,volocity,compossion,ect.For these Facts is just a few Realities.We must have a Defence against such Probabilities.So you now see some of its,the Devices,perpouses.Now the stories of using nuclearwarheads to change the trojectory,by in large an unlikelyhood.And they,the Astrophysists know the truth,about this.The beings know that there is only the Device that can Save Us.Because I did not know that the device could be used for this likelyhood.And only after thinking about it,the Device,did this idea come to me.So you see,there is a positive aspect to the Device.And now the minds that can Reason this out,will see this valid fact.So this and other earths can now rest assured we are Safe,in fact,I did think of this after thought,thinking it over.That is from the mind of a Born again Christian,and I am greatful for that.Thank you,Robert Brule

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    3. The reason I cannot take all that you say at face value.
      In your position you would know that other entities have a vested interest in this planet.
      There are some things we need not worry about as it is already being looked into and taken care of by these entities.
      An natural event which can wipe out the majority or all life on this world will not be let to happen.
      And if such a thing was planned and Not natural, there would be Nothing we could do what so ever to stop it. But again, Other invested entities would take a stand against such.

      This is Not Our world.
      We are merely squatting here till we are capable of fending for our selves with out need of it.
      At which point it will be reset and the process of the grand experiment will begin again.

      ~ VARAKIENEN.
      (We are each of course, allowed our opinions, and our voice.)

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  54. Vara

    Thank you for the songs.

    Here's one for you

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ5WPXxNzPU&list=PLa2RrLG2Mmp5hTft8NSGCZ3rHFjhfO4I8

    Only a reset can change things.

    Stay Safe

    Jay

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    1. It is amusing that you sent a song which opens up directly to my play list.
      This one plays Right before the one I sent You here.

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  55. I like that song even it is on your play list!
    You can stop being amused now. lol


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  56. Like this one too!

    Everyone needs a spark.

    Stay Safe

    Jay

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  57. You are no fun!

    Music can be uplifting or bring you down.
    Depending on the tone and ones own inner tuning.
    Some notes played make you tingle inside, Some cause pain and so on.
    Everyone is different.
    No matter what language you speak music is something we all share and feel.

    Stay Safe

    Jay

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    1. Hello Jay,I to love the earth and would never intentionally harm it.Var,you are right in my possison I should know better.And I do.Never would I do anything to them.But there are those who would,and do by and sell us like cattle and livestock.And yes they do have a vested interest in their created beings.Of which I will tell you about here.The truth is that are so far advanced ahead of us they see us as insects.They do some of them respect intelligence.

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  58. Hello Robert,
    It is good to hear that you wouldn't harm this earth.
    It has been harmed enough already.

    Stay Safe

    jay

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  59. Hello there Jay,Well I am happy you are not upset with me anymore.This earth is salvagable no matter what shape it is in.My mind is clear and I like to think about everything.On another site I wrote about their abilities and their Nature.The CIA does have a good working order of them.And I mean All of them.The most powerful races are unknown,and I do know that they do have the abilities to be at War with eachother. When I say they,US,we know of some of them Not All Of Them..There are billions and billions of races that are n billions and billions of planets, All at different stages of evolutionary deveopements.Var,I am sure that you have contacts,when you mentioned to me not to worry about my credibility just yet,at this point.Also you did and do have insight into what I say as truth.Just a feeling that I have about you.You do have a working of good knowladge phycology and reasoning.I know that there are those who do know the truth about what I say is factual.I was trained Subliminally: which was from the age of fourteen.To into my current age.

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  60. Robert,
    The earth is like a body. It too can be bruised, can be scarred. Like those that live upon it. It also can change.
    I feel you are trying to warn those here but are having trouble coming straight out with it.
    Between you and I don't care much for the CIA. The organisation reminds me of how ants live and work.
    Anyone with the ability to read can research, compile information on those here that have had experience of being taken. abducted, visited ect. The vast number of those with these experiences in itself can not be an untruth. Not totally. Some truth is in the finding.
    Fast walkers, spider/ant like, lizard, greys (many species), tall whites(some not so tall) and on and on.
    Closer now is the war.


    Stay Safe

    Jay

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  61. Hello Jay,I know now is closer to the war we are.There is alot of ignorence in regards to the beings that are here,and just what is their intention.I've done alot of thinking as to all the possibilities of them,and if there is a war,then it will be universal.And we,people will not be much of a challange to them.But we will have some Races that will side with Humanity.The lack of understanding,reasoning,knowladge,all three has power.Also with great ability comes great responsablity.The desire to servive is powerful motivator.Although that is not an issue with them,they function in logical reasoning that borders on matimatical thought.What I will know in the future will serpass what I knew in the pass.Thank you,Robert Brule

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  62. Hello Robert,
    3,7,9 are just as important as the first. Many things motivate. Mathematical equations are a connection to truths, some found, some yet to be bought to the surface. It can harm you and yet it can find you.
    Never forget the past. The beginning. At times forgetfulness brings on confusion to oneself.
    We all have desire. Myself included.
    Do not fear that in which you don't understand.

    Stay Safe

    Jay

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  63. Wow. This is getting good. I have been off the web for over a month. I have a couple of things to offer/ask:
    1st- I don't believe any of us humans, especially ones within the institutions are qualified to seek and employ this technology. I say this because we have failed miserably with the shit we have now. If the intention and responsibility lines up with the awareness of our relationships to each other and Nature, then one begins to feel humility, and a love, and reverence for all life. The idea of controlling ANYTHING becomes completely absurd. Most beings miss this. Also, if it manifest within the current paradigm, who really believes anything will be different?
    Two- Another thing I find interesting is this talk of Jesus and God.. and an understanding of this war that is playing out from Mr. Brule.... Where is the thoughts on Prophecy, the old texts, and the insight into the war that we find in them? Does any of that knowledge factor in to your fairly dark assessment of our future? I feel compelled to suggest and remind everyone that there are many things going on beneath the surface. A foundation and Truth that was laid into the very fabric of creation.. by an Unfathomable architect. This is true wherever you come from, it is the root of life. I myself will put my trust and faith in Life. We are still playing by rules that we didn't agree to, or grasp how it has muted our perception. The true nature of what we are and what we are capable of is not known, let alone manifest in our hearts.
    Thank you all for caring, and adding to my understanding of this world, and the battle I have been engaged in for some time now...

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    1. Well that has just made my day!

      Welcome back RR.
      It is good to see your words yet again.
      I have truly missed them.

      You have grown my friend.

      Love to you

      Stay Safe

      jay


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  64. I battle this day. Battle from with in.
    I was taken by surprise at my own emotion and how strong it is. I have tried so long to contain that in which is inside. Takes energy and strength to hold back.

    I feel others emotion also. This day I cry and am letting the tears flow. I need this. Some what letting go.
    I also see things that others don't. Some will call me a freak or laugh but that's ok. There are many out there that will understand and have certain things that they can do also.
    I understand them too. How they hide away from what we call normal people. It is easier emotionally for us.
    So many things to deal with and mostly we do it alone. Why be this way you ask?

    Well the world isn't ready for those that are different. The reactions that you get.
    The looks of pure horror. It's heart breaking.

    Ron tonight put a post up and I responded in such a bad way he took it down. I should not have acted the way I did. I was being selfish in a personal way. He didn't want to upset me. It's that not wanting to upset me that made me break out in tears. Now I can't stop!
    Thank you Ron your words are what I needed.

    Stay Safe

    Jay x




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    1. You are heard.
      You are Held.
      You are understood, and you are loved.

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  65. Jay.. I have cried more this last year than my entire life. Its a beautiful thing. The only way through all this chaos is found within us. Its where all the power lies, and they have done all they can to hide it, disconnect us from it, and trivialize it. I love you my friend. You can't hide your light.

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  66. Thank you Vara..........one step closer. You also are very much loved.

    RR It is beautiful when you can release it. It's hurtful when you can't.
    I should explain a little further why I have cried so much.

    Everyone has instinct. That gut instinct. Most it just fades away.
    Have you ever felt when meeting some one for the first time that oooh there's something bad about that one!
    Or something creepy ect.

    I also have that gut feeling but I also get flashes of images. Sometimes when I touch someone I can see images of where they have been or what they have done. Mostly people are good and they feel like the warm sun on your skin.
    They are the ones that make oneself happy.
    The others that are dark at heart ...what you see with them firstly sucks the breath out of you. Then you see that which is bad. This does take a toll on you. It hurts emotionally and you carry that with you.
    It doesn't happen with all I come across.
    I have other connections to some and I have never touched them. I can't explain why it happens. It just does.
    I feel some of what they feel. Sad, happy, angry, frustration and so on. Even sexual things at times, which I try my best to ignore. These are people I have not even touched. Some I have never met face to face.

    I carry more than my own feelings and it becomes so heavy. I can't just release when I feel the need. It builds up to the point I think I may burst. Something has to trigger it. Vara and Ron were my trigger.

    Thank you RR
    Love you too my friend

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  67. This is some of the writings of Don E Mitchell. I have talked about many things with him, and he is sharing some interesting ideas. Maybe others have felt/seen it too. I feel like this relates back to the earlier discussion in this blog about weather or not humans could ever truly work together. Its my opinion that there are many reasons we can't, and its no accident.
    There is something in the subconscious of many minds, that is coming from somewhere, with the ability to help free us from an all encompassing manipulation- that has been all we have ever known. This might sound like nonsense to some, that's ok, I'm just sharing ideas. Maybe Robert Brule should look into this...?
    I'm copy/pasting a bit here- Apparently I will have to do it in two posts.




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  68. What would a hypothetical baby-boomer that was left to retire with a mind that survived the dicing during the black operations that don't exist have to tell?
    Just More Fiction

    I stand by citizen's right to believe the U.S. government's claim that humans are not in possession of the knowledge of control of the natural forces, let alone know anything about events as occurred at Roswell, New Mexico, etc.
    Far from true be it that any court in the land would entertain a [[shadow government authority in cahootz]] with alien entities in a ploy subverting the genetic heritage of the human gene pool.

    So: (Midwestern speak for therefore)
    Anyone approaching me to cease and desist with certain knowledges are surely pushing me up against the sheeple's fence. I have the wool for it. It is only their way of saying, "We love you." In their mind they are our shepards. They really do care for us, they tell themselves that, often.

    But in this citizen's constitutional reality, they are the treasoners, but seriously --I'm a happy enough sheep for the while. It is 2012 Earth Spring. Things change.

    And they know it. Also they know that a mass-release of their former shadow status would rather totally disarm their grip on those that hold reins of power.

    Because: We all just know that. Why do we all just know that?

    And more fiction: Because that's the way it is. This Reality Fiction releases from the mind of a savant.

    The story setting

    A clairvoyant-savant connects to the Universe. He continues with the rest of his work-a-day, as a remote viewer: Savant's ploy: leak information to a likely replacement for his approaching end-of-contract. (Ouch, most stay in.) Big ouch! He was diced out and early, yet fresh was the touch of star mind.

    Twisted fiction: It so turns out the inner savant of the Midwest boy is most ancient. Another audacious character compulsing on the answers to the Universe. Both their lives were directed. It is 2012. The mission unfolds before them revealing how both lives and events of each have dovetailed to present the opportunity —recreate the hot seat.
    Reality Fiction This fiction is real. This statement is only true if you believe it. The government doesn't want to stop us because they only have the device, and not the knowledge. Things are going really bad wrong for the cronies that smell like ancient kaka.
    If you believe, you can be invited into the Reality Fiction and build a real artifact most precious. Every community in the new world will need a craftsman of this interventional science.
    Then there's those that know what I'm really talking about. To you, this fiction is a road map to a journey beyond dreams. To a very few this fiction will read as a release of secrets.
    Not only is Reality Fiction real fiction, but real money [from cash to community barter system] is needed to read it. The keys are the keys to the Universe, complete with the lock. This is just fiction. You will just be building a warp core, but the control interface is unlike anything anticipated.
    The writing community is open, but small. I'm the only one first writing Reality Fiction, and the builder's gild is open for apprentice conscription.
    Be the red hearing. Build a warp core. Enjoin the Universe of Reality Fiction to consummate your mind child into the community of ascending minds coupled with the power of the expanding Universe.
    This isn't about a web society. I will steal you away into adventures in imaginations and a Reality Fiction machine that can propel you throughout the unknown Universe.
    The first chapter of our Reality Fiction is about a rescue of the remote viewer that was given the keys. The story stops without his rescue.
    The key unlocks your mind to a warp core controlled by intent of the mind, with every neuron of a biological host amplified to perceive/be the Universe.

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  69. The synchronicities are a cloud of events
    ranging from teen-age years through to now. When do synchronicities become too stunning to ignore? Consistency within a life time has remained; a larger story is at play —a story I'm written into by an unknown author, without my known doing. Who is directing? Why is the strong, current theme revealing pattern and purpose centered on things I'm only yet learning? Why is this pattern of such alien purpose? A question has surfaced, one of serious philosophical reckoning: “Were an imaginary device to be built —and found to work— as a real portal to another world, then would this device be proof that the mind of humanity is influenced by a greater, yet subdominant reality of mind beyond us? A mind that guides us to a destiny not of our writing.” Why the personal entanglement with a proposal for Reality Fiction? [this is weird to me] Because: last week, this May 2012, a professed former remote viewer described to me an alien artifact that describes a vision I had during meditation at age 19... “... a glassy orb of glowing plasma filaments most beautiful. To look upon it was a fascination, and to look into it was to look into ones own mind.”

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